I've just bought a new frame (Ti456) and Revelation forks to build up a do it all hardtail - not a super lightweight racer but not too burly either. Designed to rip around the local woods and trials but also go to the 7 stanes and do multidays in the cairngorms - not too much to ask is it? I'm relishing the idea of not have a full suss anymore and getting back to basics - sort of! I thought it might be fun to aviod Shimano completely and to Spec as many UK made, or at least UK designed components as possible.
I'm thinking:-
ti456
Rockshox Revelation forks
Sram x.9 triggers, f&r Mech
Hope - headset, QRs, M4 brakes
Wheels - 819s on Hope hubs
USE sumo seatpost and carbon bars and stem
To be honest I'd rather have thomson seatpost and stem but that's not playing the game!
The chainset is causing me some concern as I could use a Middleburn RS7 or RS8 but have never seen one and going back to a isis or ST BB seems wierd. The alternative could be Race Face Atlas or Deus chainset but although not Shimano its not British either. Any ideas or could someone settle my fears about the middleburn.
Anything else I am missing?
Thanks
So where to SRAM and Rockshox fit into the UK thing?
My mate is doing a European build - magura, nicolai and a rohloff, finishing kit yet to be sorted!
Don't forget that good old British company Mavic... 🙂
find yourself a Pace fork?
Its a bit of a FAIL! before you've even started really. 😉
Give up and get the Thomson stuff although I'd still get the Middleburn.
USE seatposts are widely regarded as cack.
No - I only had the idea of goning the idea of going uk based after getting the frame and fork (the frame is not really uk either). If I'd thought about it earlier I'd have gone Pace for sure.
Phildowling - do you know of a UK manufactured rim then? Willing to consider one if you can think of one.
Sram only considered because I could not think of a non Shimano manufacurer of drivetrain components (don't want/ can't afford roholff) - is there anything I should be using?
you could get halo rims, hubs and tyres, probably made in Taiwan or something anyway but think they are uk designed.
all good news so far then
while i applaud the sentiments..... thats all i do.
"Help me Spec up a "[i]Non[/i]-British" Bike" surely?
Alright, help me spec a non shimano bike with more than it's fair share of UK components 🙄
don't think there is anyone.
Could use DMR bits as there UK designed..but think its a fail really which is quite sad for the Britsih bike industry.
Just got a UK designed Whyte 19 carb and the only UK bit on the bloody thing is the Pro 2 hubs!
a bit of a pointless exercise really isn't it?
Why's that?
I've been around the block a few times and this must be about the 20th (road and mtb) build I've done from scratch and all have been big S orientated. Just thought it'd be fun to use some components that I havn't before and if they are home grown so much the better!
Sturmey archer?!
middleburn cranks are fab. and getting a decent sq taper or ISIS BB will give you years of service... with no servicing...
UN54 are basic but reliable. phil woods are expensive... but quality.
SKF or spuerstar would be my ISIS BBs of choice.
and i'd avoid hope QRs, having heard about their loosening tendancies.
lol @ topangarider
I did a similar build prior to emigrating and had a RC303, RC40 forks, USE bars, stem, saddle and post, Hope brakes, headset, spacers, seatcollar, hubs, skewers. Middlburn RS8 chainset (SKF bb is excellent). SOL for most of the remainder of the build have a look at Silverfish I think they have some UK made stuff too.
Sturmey archer?!
owned by sunrace now.
you could get halo rims, hubs and tyres, probably made in Taiwan or something anyway but think they are uk designed.
I'm fairly sure most if not all is just generic Taiwanese rebadged stuff (so no more British than Planet-X 😈 ) Certainly the rims I've looked at are available under different brands in the US.
Thanks for the information Julian and Mr Monkey! - just need to work out which of the miriad of options to go for with the Middleburn. Still not convinced about the USE seatpost mind.
Don't forget the Royce BB.
I've had two USE Alien and 2 USE Carbon Sumos to date and no problem beyond having to replace one of the small bolts on an alien due to rust. That was only because they used a size that is more awkward to obtain than the more usual 4 or 5 mm.
That said I am 69 kg and not a heavy weight, but then again not a lightweight either!
Hmm, Royce BB, very nice.
USE Sub fork is supposed to be nice, but you'd have to find a second hand one. Pretty sure they were made in the UK.
Really, what's the point? Lashing out a grand or so on a hardtail frame, then consider speccing sub-par components on it? Might as well specify that everything's got to be pink. If you're going to constrain yourself it should be either by price or by you liking the performance of the part, not by the country of origin.
Oh, and I hope that Revelation's got a maxle- changing to a fork with a though axle did wonders for my ti456's steering after switching from a revelation.
Hope also do bottom brackets, and if you can hang on a while, there's a seatpost soon to appear....
I'm in a queue
Q!
use sub forks are great, just make sure you get the right spring weight, and bear in mind they are only 100mm travel, although they feel more like 120mm...
you are looking at between £250 and £350 2nd hand tho, and you need the specific lefty type hub front wheel.
this thread comes up every so often and spokes are the downfall of the british designed bike.
just as an aside - what about a british owned company but with a design office in another country.
or indeed a british company but with johnny foreigner design team?