Forum menu
Have we done the Sc...
 

[Closed] Have we done the Schwalbe online tyre pressure calculator?

Posts: 15555
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Interesting tool, but It only brings back the pressures I currently run if select 'rookie' over intermediate or advanced on the riding ability section, hahah!

If I select intermediate or advanced, the pressure is high enough to make for a really uncomfortable and pingy ride. But to be fair, I am probably a rookie in the grand scheme of things.

ANy thoughts from anyone else?


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:26 pm
Posts: 13291
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

nip

😉


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:28 pm
Posts: 7132
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Quick play comes out very (very) close to what I run...... interesting


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:33 pm
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

This?

https://www.schwalbe.com/en/pressureprof

I don't know
1, My weight in KG
2, Tyre width in mm
let alone my riding ability.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:42 pm
Posts: 919
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Thats just marketing guff. There are way too many variables and assumptions.
The UK is mostly Mixed and it requires a Mixed style.

I suppose if you think you need a website to tell you then thats fine, you will go with it and assume its correct.

Its beyond most people to go out and experiment and work it out for themselves. Pretty much all of the riders I know just use a specially calibrated thumb 🙂


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:50 pm
Posts: 7935
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I not a Pro so by definition I am intermediate. For my most typical conditions, its only slightly higher than my actual, and I purposely run slightly soft to account for extra, extra slippery limestone.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:55 pm
Posts: 9216
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

No input for weight of bike, your riding gear including food and fluid etc.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 3:58 pm
Posts: 889
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

too many metric numbers for me. Plus then i had to go find which version of schwalbe tyres i have and take a wild guess.

Seems about what I run anyway.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 4:00 pm
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

No input for weight of bike, your riding gear including food and fluid etc...

or accuracy of gauge.. 😉


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 4:35 pm
Posts: 7132
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Thats just marketing guff.

or it's just a (potentially) useful starting point for some people, just like suspension manufacturers giving pressure guidance for forks


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 4:43 pm
Posts: 1484
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

For a plus sized tyre on a 35mm rim it seems to come out with a very high figure: 1.5 bar (22 psi). I actually use 9 psi.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 4:44 pm
 Yak
Posts: 6941
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

It was too high by a couple of psi for my local stuff, but was spot on for when on rockier stuff or when I think I might hit rim.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 5:13 pm
Posts: 6253
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

what's the "right" pressure?

the one that the manufacturer specifies for its tyre design?  or the one that fashion dictates?

I can't decide from all those disciplines what would be exactly aligned to my riding, since they're all subjective. So it reckons anything from about 1.8bar-2.4bar.  But then I use roughly 2bar and a smidge over 2bar F/R. So pretty much in line.

Fashion will probably say that's way higher than it should be.

But then fashion doesn't know how and where and on what terrain I ride a bike.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 6:23 pm
Posts: 919
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

The Right Pressure is the one you have tired out yourself and works for you, your bike and the terrain.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 6:27 pm
Posts: 11589
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

take a wild guess.

Those were Michelin tyres...guess where you'd end up after a touch of moisture!

Suggests I'm needing to add 3psi to each end.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 6:41 pm
Posts: 43947
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Tyre width only goes up to 75mm 🙄


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 6:52 pm
Posts: 5670
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Based on that there calculator and considering I use Schwalbe tyres, it recommends twice the pressure I'm running ATM. I'm also lowering pressures because I'm pinging off roots and rocks.

Utter bobbins.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 7:00 pm
Posts: 15555
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Yeh my ideal pressure is as low as I can go without rim hits, which is about 27-30 PSI, or up to about 35 if I'm on harder smoother surfaces. Any more and the ride is too harsh.

Just thought I'd post the OP as it's another 'calculation method'.

I came to my pressures by trial and error, mostly by finding a happy medium between getting snake bites or the ride being way too pingy (on a short travel hard tail which probably makes a difference to full sus enduro or whatever)


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 9:45 pm
Posts: 1548
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

It recomends 2 bar for me about 30 psi And I run at 21 psi as any higher makes the bike twitchy.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 9:53 pm
Posts: 10633
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Seems to indicate about 17-20psi for me. Much lower than I currently run. I’ll give it a try.


 
Posted : 31/10/2019 10:17 pm
Posts: 15555
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Do be careful daffy as the recommendation PSI varies wildly depending on whether you chose Rookie or pro, I'm not sure how they define that massively different pressure just on that.

I chose xc with light tyres and if I selected pro ability it was close to 40 PSI which is way too high.

YMMV

I just thought it was an interesting tool, but I'm struggling to work out the maths behind it.


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 12:35 am
Posts: 7124
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

That's quite useful. I can effectively use it to work out what level of rider I am, since I know my tyre pressures.

I'm rookie, possibly even lower than that.

I think I already knew that though.


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 12:45 am
Posts: 66105
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

What the actual **** is going on with the units? Tyre width in mm, when all the company's products are sold in inches? And who measures tyre pressures in BAR? It's like they've intentionally done it to be annoying. Add a conversion box or a choice of units you monsters


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 2:10 am
Posts: 3311
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I use bar to measure tyre pressures when i'm riding underwater.


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 10:56 am
Posts: 43947
Full Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I've never really considered it but do the Germans use psi? "Road" bike tyre width is measured in mm of course, right up to (at least) 47mm and metric widths are on all Schwalbe tyres. Maybe it's time we just got used to metric as we have with rim widths.


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 11:01 am
Posts: 15555
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

It would be fine if mtb tyres were labeled up in metric, but everyone is used to 2.4x27.5 etc lol


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 11:05 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Germans over thinking things again.


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 11:18 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

It seems to be in the ballpark for me (as long as I enter my weight naked). As a starting point for novices, I think it's probably useful.

Didn't realize anyone did "All Mountain" any more. Is that more or less gnarly than "Trail". I think I'm kinda an aggressive XC-All Mountain rider most of the time, with maybe some Enduro-lite thrown in, and some "Trail" when I can't be bothered sticking to a proper genre, but if "Trail" is more gnarly than "All Mountain", I guess I'll have to rethink who I am.


 
Posted : 01/11/2019 12:21 pm