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[Closed] Hammerschmidt alternative. Looks interesting!

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http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/11/13/efneo-building-front-chainring-gearbox-to-fit-in-standard-bicycle-frames/

I think it looks good! It'll be interesting to see what happens to the concept in the future..


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 5:57 pm
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Hammerschmidt...

There's a product I don't hear people talking about too much these days, I thought it was the future of MTB?


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:03 pm
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I think even SRAM have given up on it.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:05 pm
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Interesting but there are enough similar sized people knocking out full gearboxes that I really can't see much demand for this


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:09 pm
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It's a very cool looking concept but that prototype looks like it's been stripped off a WWII tank found in a bog somewhere.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:10 pm
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Not sure it's needed, is it? A Rohloff already offers the same spread as 3x9, doesn't it? More or less?


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:12 pm
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I've been doing Mountain Drives for at least a decade - fit into a standard frame, and different versions with different ratios:

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Posted : 13/11/2012 6:46 pm
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8 speed Alfine is about £150, Rohloff is £900. Assuing they can bring this in under £750 it's looking promising.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:50 pm
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I thought the big market was with a rear a standard multi speed cassette but allowing use of a chain device?


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 8:28 pm
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NO NEED!

1 X 10 all the way.

32T chainring with a 11-36T cassette is perfect for trail centre riding IMO.

And when 11 speed cassettes hit the market, at a guess 36T chainring will be even better IMO.

No need for any heavy gearbox nonsense, just something else to go wrong.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 9:10 pm
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NO NEED!

1 X 10 all the way.

Gearboxes could keep all the gubbins out of the way of mud and rocks though, in a way that 1X10 doesn't. And make for better weight distribution than a Rohloff.
Gearboxes are definately the future. I'm not convinced they are the present but it's nice to see people giving it a go.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 9:23 pm
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perfect for trail centre riding

well there's your limitation, right there.

I've been riding a Rohloff for 4 years now. /once you learn to cope with the different weight distribution, the advantages are immense.
I've also had an alfine-8 which was good, but nothing compared to the Rohly, and still ride SS also.

2 and 3-stage BB/crank mounted gears could be useful if they're cheap enough to be combined with a cheaper hub-gear. i remeber people talking about combining the Hammershmidt with an Alfine. Sure it gives the spread of gears of a triple setup, but for the cost and weight of a Rohly with added complexity. And sadly Shlumpf drives aren't uch cheaper.

Most exciting thing I've seen is the Pinion gear-box. Would love to give one of those a go. especially on the Nicolai they've built for it. If only they could figure out a way for a concentric main pivot, then it could go belt-drive too.....

Edit - just watched the video again. Massive advantages for city bikes, and could realistically replace a triple chainset [b]if[/b] its cheap enough....


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 10:06 pm
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32T chainring with a 11-36T cassette is perfect for trail centre riding IMO.

even my weedy legs can outsprint a 32-11 combo, needs to be bigger imo


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 10:11 pm
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ir - where are you based?


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 10:16 pm
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ir - where are you based?


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 10:16 pm
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Love my HammerSchmidt, proper spread of gears for proper mountain riding.

This looks interesting.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 10:22 pm
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Bencooper....can I rent your schlumpf tool for a couple of days pleeaase? xx


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 11:05 pm
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The mitring one? Sure, as long as you give it back unlike the last bike shop I lent one to 🙂


 
Posted : 14/11/2012 12:01 am
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Ianpinder - I'm in Northumberland. How's your Pinion?


 
Posted : 14/11/2012 12:11 am
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As much as I like the pinion I think the effi-gear will be better once it's in full production

And they have it demonstrated with a belt drive


 
Posted : 14/11/2012 6:36 am