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[Closed] Grannytrap on ben lomond is rideable

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TJ

I make no apologies for challenging bad practice The OP stated it was intended and that is what it looked like

What exactly did I state was intended? To ride down the grannytrap, yes. To incite a bunch of wining self righteous moaners on both side of the ensuing "discussion", no.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:40 am
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Interested to know how the Trust would enforce a ban on the hill? Who would pay for it? In the same manner, how rigorously is no cycling on footpaths enforced down south. I wonder who here has never ridden a cheeky trail? Let's assume there is a ban, no matter how unlikely. To enforce it would be a civil matter unless there was a substantial change in the law. How likely is a land owner going to go down the route of legal proceedings? Not very is my guess. For all the worry over bans, the ultimate outcome is pretty toothless. The point of exercising common sense and respect is well made but the fear of bans perhaps overeggs the pudding. Just relax and worry less. When you're getting annoyed behind your keyboard, why not redirect your passion to more important things like challenging govt cuts, school closures, child poverty etc?. There is so much more to get worried about than erosion on a mountain. As one poster said, the mountain ain't going anywhere!


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:42 am
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If there was a ban I would respect it, and I'm sure the vast majority of responsible mountain bikers would.
So what you're saying is, you don't care, and would would ride it anyway.
Pretty offensive really.

Did you say you sat on an access forum ?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:48 am
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no Sanny is simply talking sense, as he always does!


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:13 pm
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j_me

Would I respect a ban on Ben Lomond? Frankly no and when there were no cycling signs many years ago, I happily chose to ignore them then also. And guess what, the signs are no more and the world didn't end. Had those who walked on Kinder Scout all those years ago respected the land owners, we wouldn't have the access rights we now have. However, that doesn't mean I don't respect other users nor do I go out of my way to antagonise them. What I do do though is consider the harm that I may be casuing to the trail and aim to mitigate against further damage. Of course, it's not always easy in a country of much rain and mud! ๐Ÿ˜€

If you want to get vexed about folk riding bikes, start with the ejits who jump red lights and ride at night without lights. There the law exists to protect you and other road users from harm. Frankly, that should be a far greater concern and is worthy of discussion and not riding on paths where an arbitrary decision to class as footpath or bridleway has been made (taking the English example)

And yes, I did sit on an access forum. If you want to effect change and ensure that your voice is heard, always do it from within and get involved.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:07 pm
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I have no further comment to make on the matter.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:15 pm
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Steeble, that is the most hilarious thing I have read.

I wish you had taken a video whilst doing a bit skid.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 10:26 pm
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