[Closed] Glentress trail recognition.

Yeah - that's 'Beware Tailswing'.

No idea, but it won't last long if everyone rides it with their back brakes locked on.....

😉

Skids are for kids, learn some brake control 🙄

Guess that's what we'll be doing at trailfairies tomorrow- resurfacing a walker's path 😆 I think it's part of the Hill Hike?

yeah, your riding down a walkers path. Pointless last time i went down it with amount of trees down. Good fun with sharp corners in it

For the record, it isn't me riding in the video, The fella displays exactly how to wreck a trail with that kind of riding.

Looks like they hail from somewhere Miles Better; I thought only Slightly Superior folk went to GT 😯

that takes me back chickenman 🙂

Worth saving for a re-post the next time somebody complains about walkers or dogs on the "bike" trails.

It's not exactly the same is it? Walking on a bike trail is likely to be dangerous, riding on a walking trail might be inconsiderate but you're very unlikely to cause an accident. Unless of course you can't ride a bike at all, like this dude, in which case you need the same safety exclusion zone as a tree harvester

It doesn't seem to be a thing that the FC are stressed about, in any case.

[quote=Northwind ]It's not exactly the same is it? Walking on a bike trail is likely to be dangerous, riding on a walking trail might be inconsiderate but you're very unlikely to cause an accident. I'll let you read that back to yourself....

...and?

reads fine to me? most biking in scotland takes place on 'walking' trails

These trails hold up remarkably well to skidding tyres, and if they erode down to firmer rocky rooty narrow tracks rather than smooth surfaced ones then all the better. Get rid of that pesky mud and form us some bedrock trails!

This IS one of the most boring of the unmarked trails at GT right enough.

I've done trails in the tweed valley area that rarely see a rear wheel rotating due to ave gradients of 35% or more.

Good luck wearing GT trails down to bedrock, you're going to need to skid your way through several feet of dirt in most places and then what you've got isn't a trail, it's a ditch full of water. The average glentress trail gets dug down 1-2 feet down to a base of mineral soil then built back up, but it's incredibly rare we find bedrock, we have to do the next best thing and build our own substrate. Please don't skid on them, it genuinely does **** them up and every day we spend fixing a shagged out trail, is a day we can't spend doing something new and cool. (while I'm at it, please don't shortcut or ride "faster lines" off the trail, it's all damage)

Also, there is the trail lifecycle... Generally, we don't like brand new trails, they're smooth and boring, right? But the problem is, you can't get a worn-in trailcentre trail without first having a brand new boring trail then riding it in. (*) People see a new wackerplated trail and think that's a finished article but it's not, it's just the last part of the build- the finished trail comes much later.

So yes wheel pressure is needed to get the trails through to that nice evolved state, but skidding doesn't do that- it rips it up, it doesn't wear it in. And once you reach the "mature" trail, you want that to last as long as is possible, because once it gets to the shagged out stage, it needs dug up and rebuilt and then everyone complains about "BMX trails" again.

So it's counterintuitive but wearing out trails fast doesn't give you nicely worn trails, it actually gives you more smooth BMX trails more of the time.

(*OK, there is an alternative which is to build looser in the first place, but this is a short-term option, and Glentress is I think still the most ridden trailcentre in the UK so trails have to last through rain and shine for several years or they're just not viable)

That is serious mincing in that video. A quality demonstration of someone who could so will some skills training.

That is serious mincing in that video. A quality demonstration of someone who could so will some skills training.

What video can't really show, and what the viewer cannot appreciate, is just how steep and rough that section of trail is; it is precisely a one in sixty-three gradient and akin to aggressive cobblestone.

Rides like how I'd expect a STEer to ride, except he's ruined it by being out on his bike rather than polishing it & then posting pictures of it

franksinatra - Member
That is serious mincing in that video. A quality demonstration of someone who could so will some skills training.

Looks like they hail from somewhere Miles Better; I thought only Slightly Superior folk went to GT