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Balls. I didn't actually expect to get a place.

How hard is it?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:42 am
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Probably to hard for you 😉


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:46 am
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I applied but haven't heard yet, does this mean I haven't got in?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:48 am
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got the email about 20 mins ago


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:49 am
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Ha, yeah me and a mate at work both applied and got in, wonder if the 'lottery' is really necessary! We're both first timers though so that might help.

Finished last year feeling good at the Bealach Mor on a relatively heavy bike, but then have spent most of November and December not riding because of a wrist injury. Hoping spin classes till end of February and then two months back on the bike will be adequate preparation!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:02 am
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On entry it did ask if it was first time and I think they reserved a certain number of places.

it'll be a good warm up for the Dartmoor Classic....


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:24 am
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I applied but haven't heard yet, does this mean I haven't got in?

It's on open roads so ride it anyway!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:25 am
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Can be a cruise in the sun or a battle into wind driven hail.
Cross those digits (and give us a wave as you pass our front door)


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:26 am
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You'll be fine. I stayed in Patterdale a couple of years ago and just went out one day and rode the route. Stopped at Whinlatter for a nice lunch.

If you're worried about finishing, the key will be not to get caught up in racing the first 20 miles like a crit when everyone sets off way too fast, then time trialling the next 20 miles.

Here's a picture of me climbing Hardknott. You know, just riding along... 🙂

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Posted : 14/01/2015 10:52 am
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I've actually climbed the equivalent ascent (10,023ft) in a single climb, 5 hours of climbing right enough... 😕

Amazed at how they cram all that elevation in considering the 'signature' climbs aren't actually that big.

I compared with the Aviemore to Pitlochry ride I did a few years ago and that is still a couple of thousand feet short, I guess because Aviemore itself is relatively high. If you ride Pitlochry to Aviemore and do two laps of the ski hill climb then you're pretty much bang on, not a ride I would ever have considered previously but might have to give it a go in April.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 11:04 am
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First timer and i got a knockback...boo!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 11:09 am
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It's surprising how much all the small rises add up, 20 metres here, 10 metres there and you soon get large totals. Did one of my "flat" rides a few months back, it's flat enough to consider for HR zone training, and it has 400 metres of ascent in 30Km.

On the FW there's a lot of up and down between Kirkstone and Honister for example and a hell of a lot between Whinlatter and Hardknott.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 11:13 am
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+1 first two hours are the key. Go off too fast and the next 6 will be hard.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 11:13 am
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Another first time and Im in!:D

Better get some hill training in. No chance of me getting caught up in racing, Im just out to complete.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 11:41 am
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Steady away up the hills, esp the first few then take it from there if your feeling relatively fresh. Obviously there's a lot of hills but there's quite a lot of flat sections linking them up and if you want a good time it's these that can make or break a sub seven hour time imho. Looking forward to it. Although I'll have to loose a few pounds if I want to better last years time 😳


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 12:18 pm
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and smash the last 10 miles - eh andy?

You in again?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 12:21 pm
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and smash the last 10 miles - eh andy?
You in again?


Yeah 😀 Are you having another go or have you had enough ?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 12:25 pm
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I applied but haven't heard yet, does this mean I haven't got in?

I'm still waiting for an email either way..anyone else still not heard ?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 12:28 pm
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First timer here and got in. Riden most of the passes and parts of the route but never the whole thing in one.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 12:36 pm
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Oh yeah, just after I took that photo above, I descended into the Wrynose bowl and bumped into a couple of blokes who were about 80 on a tandom.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 12:58 pm
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Bugger.

No luck here either. First time applying for the Fred.

I just hope now it proves to be third time lucky with my application for Ride London.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 1:30 pm
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A warm up for the Dartmoor Classic!? I did the DC in 2013 and thought it was a bit of a gift compared to Coasting in Cornwall (the worlds worst route and weather!) and Sommerset Hills Gran Fondo (which is fantastic btw). Is the FW not savage? I really don't know if you're having a laugh, sorry!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 1:33 pm
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Check your spam folders - mine went in there on a Gmail address.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 1:34 pm
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Whoooo, im in ....now where did i leave my road bike 😯 not been on it since July


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 1:39 pm
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Bugger, just found out I'm in. Shit just got real.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 1:46 pm
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[quote=climbingkev ]A warm up for the Dartmoor Classic!? I did the DC in 2013 and thought it was a bit of a gift compared to Coasting in Cornwall (the worlds worst route and weather!) and Sommerset Hills Gran Fondo (which is fantastic btw). Is the FW not savage? I really don't know if you're having a laugh, sorry!

DC Grande Route is roughly same amount of climbing and distance. more long sustained climbs though than lots of short steep ones.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 1:52 pm
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Alas not in, attempted for the first time last year.

Good luck to one and all


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 2:01 pm
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more long sustained climbs though than lots of short steep ones.

That's the really killer in the lakes generally. If you don't have the right gearing you end up having to ride way too hard to keep your cadence up, or you end up grinding over a big gear. Either way, it'll kill you for later in the ride.

Make sure you have the right gears for your fitness level. At [i]least[/i] a 34-28 as a starting point - preferably a bigger cassette if you can. I rode Hardknott at 4.5W/Kg on a 34-28 and had an average cadence of only 60! After 100 miles Hardknott is *really* hard.

EDIT: Contrast that with Matterdale 4W/Kg @ 93rpm, Whinlatter 4W/Kg @ 88rpm, Kirkstone 4W/Kg @ 86rpm.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 2:12 pm
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Hmm... I managed a sustained 25% in 39/27 three years ago, I'm probably not as fit as I was then although there's still four months to go, would think I'd be OK in 34/28 although do have a new 11spd 11-32 cassette knocking around, would need a longer cage mech though.

Now the hunt for accommodation begins!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 2:29 pm
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First timer and no luck for me.
I'm thinking of the Cumbrian 200 or the Sheffrec Full monty instead.
Or the Selkirk MTB marathon and do a second ride on the Sunday...


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 2:40 pm
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Now the hunt for accommodation begins!

is it difficult? any recommendations for a campsite?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 2:43 pm
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Nah, I just had a quick look and there's still a variety of options, I just need to coordinate 2 co-workers, one of whom really needs a good night's sleep before a long ride, and the other of whom snores like beezlebub himself...

(plus the helpful targeted advertising above is already full of Grasmere hotels! 😀 )


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 2:55 pm
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Still no email (I checked spam too). It's odd as I received confirmation of lottery entry without issue. I guess I'll take it as a 'no' unless I receive something. Still I've got training for the long route of Cheshire Cat to get me off the sofa.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 3:30 pm
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good news, emails arrived (header suggests sent 10:27 this morning but just arrived at 15:18 !?)
bad news, it's a rejection.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 4:25 pm
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No luck for me really enjoyed it last year riding with a couple of friends that had entered! might volunteer to help out to guarantee a place for next year


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 5:08 pm
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Matts no pic as you went over the cattle grid? 8)

52:39 and 12-29 didn't do it for me on the four seasons version. There was walking!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 6:17 pm
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It's an awesome day out, great atmosphere. Definitely 34-28 if you want to ride all the passes. Food stations are amazing, Cold Fell usually lives up to its' name (if wind is W or SW) and catches out exhausted riders. Get into a bunch for the A66 leg (and Cold Fell too if possible). Enjoy 😈


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 6:27 pm
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@shred - pretty sure there is no Selkirk marathon this year 😥


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 7:19 pm
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Has anyone tried to organize a STW group in previous years?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 7:26 pm
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Their web site says there is on the 2nd May


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 10:15 am
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nope not in 3rd/4th time of trying,


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 10:22 am
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might volunteer to help out to guarantee a place for next year

Can't find anything on the website about that - is that the case for all volunteers?


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 10:37 am
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Trying to figure out some training for this, I'm still off the bike with a wrist injury and not anticipating getting back on until start of March.

2-3 spin classes a week until end of March

Between March and May

2 hilly 50 milers
2 hilly 60/70 milers
1/2 hilly 100 milers.

Maaaaybe..1 130 miler with the equivalent ascent of the FW.

Not very scientific but got to fit it around work and girlfriend!

My biggest concern is time in the saddle, I didn't use to be shy of 100-130 mile rides but it's been a while and I've herniated a disc since then. I know I can do 5 hours in the saddle before the back gets seriously sore and stiff, so hopefully just getting lots of saddle time in 2 months prior to the FW will see me right.

It's good fun planning rides with as much climbing as possible, lets you plot pointless 'there-and-back' climbs that you'd normally maybe ignore.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 10:39 am
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Aim for a sub 5hr time then...

Finding hills isn't a problem. My short of time road route is up to princetown and back. 13.5 miles. 1700ft of climbing.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 10:50 am
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Aim for a sub 5hr time then...

Ha, obvious solution! Don't dare look at the average times for FW, 7hr?


 
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