Morning all,
A relatively latecomer to riding trooooosers and now have a few pairs.
My Leatt 4.0s, being my favourite so far (Fox Flexair, Endura Singletracks are other choices in order of preference) are often pulled out of the drawer for the inevitable traipse around the muddy woods.
However, with the weather and all the mud, I've noticed that the troooooosers get heavier as they collect mud and eventually get wet - and start to slip down the waist as I ride.
The waist grips do a limited job - but I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this - and how did they deal with it - perhaps a set of braces?
Any ideads welcomed before I end up being arrested in the middle of the woods with my pants around my ankles.
Make sure they are comedy ones.
Just try it they are only about £10 on ebay make sure they are ones with 4 clips not 3 for even pull.
I do think your shorts choice is absorbing water. Waterproof shorts if it's that wet?
You can get work braces from people such as Stihl that would work.
Scott also do bibshorts with built in baggy.
https://www.startfitness.co.uk/scott-trail-tech-hybrid-with-pad-mens-cycling-bib-shorts-blue.html
Endura Singletracks use the clickfast liner. That helps keep them up.
Of course, the answer is lycra.
I use 4 clip braces like the ones posted above. They work although have a tendency for one of the clips to come off after descents where you're moving your upper body around a lot, and after falling off.
I have some outdoorsy ones, got them from REI.com in the US.
I asked Endura about this, well suggested that they should make some (braces that is) that work with their clickfast tm system, they poo pooed the idea though they did send some clickfast connectors to try out for myself (still not got round to it, going for fix them to the top half of some bib shorts when they give up the ghost)
Dungaree type foul weather shorts would be awesome. The higher rear waist would reduce the amount of crap you get under your shirt and down the waist and the shoulder straps would help keep them in place when soaked/muddy.
Polaris do something like that but they are end of line because of the seat wearing out too quickly I think.
I was just coming to the same conclusion as Doomanic.
"Dungaree" Longs is the right answer - I'd buy some :o)
Braces work a treat - get the heavy duty ones with metal clasps.
Dungaree type foul weather shorts would be awesome
Would love a pair of these!
I got some mil-spec army surplus ones because my hip pack kept pushing my shorts down.
Tried a number of different sets over the years, currently using these & they seem the best so far:
Oregon black
The idea was good. The execution less so apparently (according to Polaris just around the “clearance no returns” statement)
"I want braces to hold up my trews"
"Buy shorts with built-in bibs instead"
Classic STW
OP - please test some braces and report back - I might be interested myself but the set linked above do look a bit cumbersome.
Be fair I didn’t recommend buying them.
I simply suggested similar things had been made.
Riding trousers with built in braces would be spot on - just like the Sweet Protection Goretex shell snow ones I’ve got. (But cut differently)
For those suggesting click-fast, do you get on with them? My only experience was a while ago, but found the if one waist-band was in the right place, the other was too high/lower (iirc shorts in the right place resulted in chamois being too low)
Those Polaris might be worth a punt if you're prepared to sew a panel on the arse. I've done it a few times, it's not easy but it can be done.
Clickfast works for me. Other linking methods I've experienced just allow too much movement.
I also have a Endura MTR bib/baggy combo using that weird "cats tongue" material designed to prevent slippage. It's OK too.
I don’t like using braces with metal clips, they just don’t hold. I’d sew some big buttons in to your trousers with heavy duty thread and use something like these (it’s what I’ve done with all my work trousers)
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(iirc shorts in the right place resulted in chamois being too low)
I don't ware a chamios unless on a all day ride (mtb or road), rather than a trail center session or a short morning ride, both of which I haven't done for years :(.
Try it. Takes a while to get your self trained up but is much more comfy without the pad all the time.
In the unlikely event that I ever need to wear my evening suit again (it's a rather nice wool-and-silk Aquascrotum one since you ask) I will have to give my braces a good scrub. Meanwhile, they hold my waterproof shorts up. Haven't found a cycling use for the cummerbund yet.
@kiwijohn - that's exactly the same situation as me, although I hadn't considered it before that my hip bag might be doing it. I might look to offload msot/all its contents to a strap and wetbag on the frame, and then see how whether it still happens.
However, I'm encouraged to see that others have tackled this issue also, so I'll consider some of those links and report back.
And no, I'm not going back to shorts, at least, until the warmer weather - the fact I don't spend ages washing mud off myself - I just strip the trouooosers off before I head inside.
My motorbike trousers have braces, waist is not too tight and they dont slide down, works fine.
I found that the Madison long trousers I bought were a little low on the waist and tended to sag a bit. Bought some Oregon Black Logger braces from Screwfix for about £14.
They're straps are nice and wide so don't dig in the shoulders, 4x points of clipping or buttoning and have worked a treat.
I use Screwfix logging braces with waterproof riding shorts regularly. These ones I think:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/oregon-562411-logger-trouser-braces-black-metal-clip-attachment/5170x
I'm actually keeping an eye open on eBay for some cheap army surplus goretex trousers with braces, which I'll shorten the legs on.
@chipsngravy - perfect!
Even available in flouro pink for the full ostentacious look (which I have obviously just purchased).
Thanks all!
Used braces occasionally for cycling since about 1990; started off using woolen shorts on the road with a real dead sheep chamoix leather. Check out charity shops for metal clamp braces
I've been using braces with RAF goretex trousers for years.
They were cheap off eBay and have metal clips .
I've bought some fox defend trousers. They are great, but the waist is too small and they sag down. The braces have come back out for them.
A cool look- nope
A dry bum- yep 😀
crikey
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Used braces occasionally for cycling since about 1990; started off using woolen shorts on the road with a real dead sheep chamoix leather. Check out charity shops for metal clamp braces
Same for me, I started cycling seriously in my early teens (mid-80's) and braces with woolen shorts were the norm.
JAG
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I was just coming to the same conclusion as Doomanic.“Dungaree” Longs is the right answer – I’d buy some :o)
We used to wear climbing salopettes for mountain biking in the early 90's, they were probably a pre-cursor to todays bib-tights but a bit looser and had pockets
Wide cheap ones from Amazon with metal clasps
5yrs still going strong.
it's on the expensive end of solution, but my 'Showers Pass' overtrousers have dedictaed braces which work a treat.
I've used cheap braces before but I've found my fox trousers don't need it.