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anagallis_arvensis sed> Eh?

Setting the ideal pressures before each ride has eliminated pinch flats and I haven't had punctures, so I stopped carrying the clutter.


 
Posted : 07/07/2020 8:27 pm
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Interesting examples of risk assessment going on above.

I'm prepared to carry the small amount of extra weight for the extremely unlikely scenario of a broken chain, because calling my wife to come pick me up when I'm 50 miles from home is out of the question as far as I'm concerned.

Same as not carrying tubes/pump etc. For the sake of a small amount of pocket space or the shame of using a saddle bag I'd much rather avoid a looooong walk home in cleats or the ignominious phone call.

I mean, my wife would come and collect me, probably, but it's not worth creating additional resistance to the idea of me going out for the next long ride etc.

and at the end of the day - if you get home early from a ride, they never remember. If you get home late, they never forget!


 
Posted : 07/07/2020 9:29 pm
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This is both a new tube and pair of patches. Not very easy to do trailside....

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Posted : 07/07/2020 10:31 pm
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This is both a new tube and pair of patches. Not very easy to do trailside….

It's really not.


 
Posted : 07/07/2020 10:52 pm
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Why not?

Brace tube is new.

Steel patches cover where the Reynolds 853 seatstays had rusted through (from the original brace tube collecting water)

Re-use, recycle and all that.

So in answer to the Op's title question I repair tubes but only swap in a new one 🙂


 
Posted : 07/07/2020 11:04 pm
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Nope. I swop out for a brand new out the box, after the check, then about a week later repair the old one, which is then added to the mountain of repaired innertubes I just never get around to using.

Volunteered for bike station a bit back and they had a mountain of innertubes and tyres 8'high. There was concern about the weight of it pressing on a structural wall 😯


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 1:04 am
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Interesting examples of risk assessment going on above.

I’m prepared to carry the small amount of extra weight for the extremely unlikely scenario of a broken chain, because calling my wife to come pick me up when I’m 50 miles from home is out of the question as far as I’m concerned.

Indeed, but no one has answered my question from the last page about using an 11 speed quick link without the proper pliers, I couldnt get it done at home had to go to the shop and buy some. Not taking them on a ride so dont bother with chainlinks or tools on that bike. I expect I have a few 9 speed ones knocking about with other bikes. Also I have never bust a chain in 40years of riding, although have bent mech hangers etc and had to singlespeed a bike a few times, it never really works though!


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 8:17 am
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So in answer to the Op’s title question I repair tubes but only swap in a new one 🙂

Very good.


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 8:56 am
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Indeed, but no one has answered my question from the last page about using an 11 speed quick link without the proper pliers, I couldnt get it done at home had to go to the shop

Fair point, but you don't need to carry pliers

1/ with a bootlace / bit of string / bit of gear cable, that you could easily carry

2/ tyre lever solution (which you might carry anyway?)

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3/ never tried myself but chainring and rock - you use the teeth on the chainring to create a slack link for the masterlink and then a sharp tap with a small tool / rock will undo it. I can't find a video or picture but I have seen one before (other's google-fu may be better)


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 9:34 am
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Why would you need to undo a quick link on the trail?

Assuming the quick link is somehow knackered yet still joined, just drive the pin out with your chain tool?

I do see your (other) point though, I don't think I've broken a chain in oooh.... 10 years? Back in the day when I was a proper rider and rode stuff until it broke or wore out, rather than now when I have 5 bikes to choose from and barely ride 😀


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 11:50 am
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Yep! Got afew repaired tubes I keep in the bag for emergencys, plus afew I'm running have patches in (was tubeless but one by one they've all failed, still to fix!)


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 10:09 pm
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No. Complete waste of time. A fixed tube is as good as a new tube.


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 9:06 am
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This has reminded me to check the 3 year old sealant in my tyres though!


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 9:09 am
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Indeed, but no one has answered my question from the last page about using an 11 speed quick link without the proper pliers

You'd only need to fit one on the trail, not remove one. You don't need a tool...assemble the link, gentle pressure on the pedals and perhaps squeeze the side plates together with your fingers and it's connected.

Pliers to remove are definitely easier, but you would never do that as a repair, if you had to break the chain for some reason, use a chain tool.


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 9:22 am
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Bez

I always fix the tube there and then and put it back in. Then I don’t forget to fix it later.

Haven’t found Slime tubes to make patching difficult so far: just wipe the slime off first, obviously.

Pretty wasteful to bin a repairable tube. Only one step above leaving it at the road/trail side.

I always repair tubes. Needless waste otherwise and quite therapeutic to fix them.

I'll argue slime tubes are horrid things though. I could really feel the imbalance causing 'pulsing' at any sort of speed!

Also, since I've become the unofficial local 'pram mechanic', I hate the bloody things. Local Halfords stick a slime tube in a pram, when it inevitably punctures it doesn't seal (pressure not high enough?) and when I get the bloody thing I have to spend ages cleaning manky sealant off the tyre and tube (along with dog poo, glass, needles and whatever else the pram had been pushed through) before I can fix it.

It's also alarming how badly made even the expensive prams are - thin pressed steel, basic alloy tubes with flattened ends, rivets and no bearings or bushes at all or bearings with no method of preloading them so the axle just spins on the bearing seat, no way of taking the material off for cleaning without removing rivets. And shockingly they break and can't be fixed easily...

They make bikes look incredible value for money


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 9:31 am
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You’d only need to fit one on the trail, not remove one. You don’t need a tool…assemble the link, gentle pressure on the pedals and perhaps squeeze the side plates together with your fingers and it’s connected.

True, but it was beyond me this year on two 11 speed bikes when they got new chains and cassettes. Was always able to do it easy on 9 speed. Maybe it was me. Never had a chain break either so I don't bother with a chain tool on the bike these days, or carry split links. Might if I was off touring or something, but not for a day ride.


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 9:40 pm
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I've just realised that I'm doing something daft. I'm tubeless on my FS & tubed on the HT. The most flats I've ever had was 5 thorns at once on the HT so I should really be tubeless on that.
Most patches on one tube? 15.
If you chuck a tube away after one puncture then youv'e got more money than puncture fixing ability. And sense.


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 10:15 pm
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Funny that this should be bumped today! Had to use my Dynaplug for the second time ever today. Son reports soft front tyre, second time we pump it up he says he can hear the air escaping, and we find its next to an old repair. I think the plug prob won’t work as funny shaped hole, jam one in anyway. Quick pump and we’re away. Brilliant invention. Swinnertons have the carbon ones for £20, treat yourself 😊


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 10:22 pm
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What patches are people using?
I used to like the Park ones but recently they always seem to fail.


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 11:07 pm
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Any glue type - working through a sheet that you cut patches off ATM

I've seen glueless fail too many times at road pressures


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 11:15 pm
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Rema Tip Top


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 11:23 pm
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It's one of the very few things I don't recycle/reuse. I can repair punctures and did this for years on the mtb. The only tubes I have now are 18-25mm and easily distort. Rightly or wrongly for the 1-2 punctures I get each year I replace and accept this is wasteful. Eventually all the bikes will be tubeless!


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 10:31 am
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The only tubes I have now are 18-25mm and easily distort.

I don't think it matters when they are in a tyre.

Eventually all the bikes will be tubeless!

I doubt this tbh. But you don't need to keep binning tubes to facilitate it.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 10:37 am
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all my bikes will be tubeless. and the distortion may not matter once inside the tyre but this is what I do - I'm not saying it is right.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 10:49 am
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all my bikes will be tubeless

you know it's 2020 right? Why has it taken you so long 😉


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 12:16 pm
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Has anyone used one of the self-sealing tubes in a 700x40mm tyre?


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 1:14 pm
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Eventually all the bikes will be tubeless!

Nonsense. See how tubs work. Never seen a tubeless tub.

Rema patches ftw, with two minutes to let the glue vulcanise properly. Except on proper latex tubes. They are the beat to fix.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 1:33 pm
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Has anyone used one of the self-sealing tubes in a 700x40mm tyre?

Yep, some cheap Halfords numbers. Doing OK for my 37 and 40c on Plug.

Cheers!
I.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 1:42 pm
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thanks @IvanMTB


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 1:59 pm
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Nonsense. See how tubs work. Never seen a tubeless tub.

Tubs are either tubeless tyres, or tireless tubes, Shirley?


 
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