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[Closed] Do I need a singlespeed??

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I've got:
- carbon frame with vertical drop outs, but the rear hanger area is a bit floppy after some damage
- bars / stem / spacers / headset / bunger
- BB7s & cabling still in
- Shimano deore shadow rear mech**

To convert it to a single speed I'd need:
- brake calipers £15
- cheap disc wheels ££??
- single speed chainset & square taper BB £20? (may have an old BB laying around)
- Conversion kit for cassette to single cog & chain tensioner £25? **

All my riding is on the road, I have a racing bike and a new commuter/long distance bike.

The question is, do I need a single speed pub bike in my life? ❓


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 3:04 pm
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How floppy is floppy. Dropout still gotta keep that chain tensioned.

Is it worth £200 for a pub bike. Assuming you ever ride to pub on it.

But, yes, is obviously the answer!


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 3:28 pm
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Any old cassettes? Those can be mutilated into singlespeed spacers and even cogs. If the hanger is really buggered you could try a ghost gear. Try a local bike recycling place for bits.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 4:04 pm
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Also you could search for a magic ratio calculator online. Might not need a tensioner, ok for a pub bike but can be temperamental if off roading.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 4:06 pm
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A few old cassettes yeah, but don't mind spending £10 for a "proper" job.

The hanger is okay actually it was just never silky smooth at changing, it just needs adjustment after replacing the wheel and I wasn't able to pedal backwards as it would whip the chain off from the bottom of the chainset.

Biggest expense would be a set of wheels...


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 4:16 pm
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Use your existing mech as a tensioner - use an old spoke to hold it laterally across the freehub by bolting/bending it through the normal cable route. Can put up pics of what I mean if you need!


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 4:35 pm
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To answer your OP question.

Yes.

Now get on with it.

😉


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 5:08 pm
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I read this as you need a new bike. No one needs a single speed when you can have gears.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 5:13 pm
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When I'm in charge it'll be an imprisonable offence not to have a singlespeed.

So yeah, I'd get cracking on one now.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 6:10 pm
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PS That was not a subliminal message to buy an On One. Or a subliminal message about On Ones cracking.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 6:11 pm
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Yeah just do it, don't spend a fortune on it though.
Rear Mech to tension the chain, adjust the high/low screws to get decent chainline.

Singlespeeds are meant to be simple 😀


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 9:05 pm
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A rear mech isn't simple, it's? just cheap if you have one spare 😉


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 9:10 pm
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Okay I'm doing it 😆

Not sure about using the shadow mech or just buying a kit for £25 with the rear sprocket in it too..

First things first, I need a cheap disc wheelset...


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 10:37 pm
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A neater solution for a chain tensioner is a Blackspire Stinger style chain guide.

Shimano DX SS sprockets are cheap and work fine too.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 10:42 pm
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First things first, I need a cheap disc wheelset...

Thought about building one up? It's really enjoyable and rewarding


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 11:23 pm
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Single speeds are great every one should have one.

But you should have a mtb one and use it off road.
For road use build a fixed.


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 11:28 pm
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What kind of frame is it? Ie what size wheels do you need?


 
Posted : 17/07/2017 11:28 pm
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It's a CX frame - 700c/ or 29ers with 100/135mm axles.

I've thought about building my own wheels but I'm not sure I have the patience 😆


 
Posted : 18/07/2017 6:31 am
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The main characteristic of a pub/shopping bike is its undesirability. So you don't have to worry about it being nicked when it's locked to the lamppost.
Mine is an old thing that I bought from a recycling place for £25. Sliding dropouts and a flip flop hub meant it cost about £6 to convert to fixed.
Mudguards and a panier mean I use it all the time.


 
Posted : 18/07/2017 6:58 am
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SS is so much nicer with a horizontal/slotty (or posher alternative) dropout

SImilarly, it'll allow fixed-wheel too

Dump your existing frame and find an decentish old mtb frame with SSable back end (seriously, your local tip mught even have one for a tenner). That'll take 700c wheels (IME anyway), won't look stealable and you could even ride it off-road with a spare set of wheels


 
Posted : 18/07/2017 7:58 am
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But it won't be shiny carbon 😆

It's a really nice frame it'd be a shame not to use it. It'll still be locked up using a big d-lock etc.


 
Posted : 18/07/2017 9:43 am
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Decided on this crankset: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MIC-46-48T-Single-Speed-Fixed-gear-Fixie-Track-Bike-Crankset-in-gift-box-/322082998171?var=&hash=item4afda4879b:m:mZrxKLatqVFwvJFzifNOOkA

I've got a 16T rear cog.

Should I go for the 48 or 46 front?


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 11:42 am
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Depends on what it is like where you live. I have a fairly low gear ratio on my commuter (67 inches) because I live in London so about 90% of my time is spent pulling away from traffic lights (plus the bike gets pretty lardy when loaded!) Most people seem happy with 75-77 inches, which is what I have on my track bike and that seems fine for when I ride it thru London to the velodrome, but I guess it's also much (much!) lighter.


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 12:43 pm
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I'd go 46. When I've had a road singlespeed it's been 42:16 and I'd happily go a bit lower for a pub bike.


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 12:47 pm
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Cheers guys!

46 @ 76.20 inches looks good 🙂


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 1:00 pm
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46:16 seems massive to me - comes to ~20.5mph at 90rpm.
That's gonna be some speedy rides to the pub!


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 4:14 pm
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42:16 is standard for off the peg bikes. A bit too low for flat faster rides. I ride 42:14 (3:1) for club rides, having graduated from 42:15. I don't like SS either; fixed or gears, but it may be harder to achieve without an eccentric BB/hub. I'd go with 46:16. Miche crankset is a good buy. But anything you have lying around is also fine. 165 mm by choice.


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 4:22 pm
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I guess il find out now!

Final piece is the wheelset, watching a few to try and get a sub £50 bargain (here's a hoping!!)


 
Posted : 19/07/2017 5:39 pm
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Done!

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Well almost, I tried finishing it off today with a large hangover/lack of sleep and I've cut the chain too short for a 16t, but a 13t fits 😆

But the concept works, I've just taken it out for a quick spin and the chain didn't fall off. It is heavier than when it had gears though 😆

New chain on order so I'll get the 16t back on and the chain tighter than the above...and lower the brake levers when I need new tape.


 
Posted : 30/07/2017 8:17 pm
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Have you gone for a magic gear ratio? Chain looks a little slack, but if it works then no worries!

It's actually a lovely looking bike! You must be v happy!


 
Posted : 30/07/2017 9:33 pm