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Simple was one of the first pure singlespeeds
2. Roadrat - nothing else like it for versatility. I would say he created a market here, not followed anyone else
3. Hemlock's adjustability and mismatched travel was one of the first of its type
erm. no. no. no. whilst they're great bikes none of the above is true. 🙂
Re bandwagon-following I also think the facts do not bear this out:
1. Soul - the first hardcore hardtail with long toptube and short rear & stem to really take off. Simple was one of the first pure singlespeeds
2. Roadrat - nothing else like it for versatility. I would say he created a market here, not followed anyone else
3. Hemlock's adjustability and mismatched travel was one of the first of its type
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Take her for a ride and thrash the pants of her, Mogrim. That'll cheer her up
She gets taken out weekly - she's my only MTB!
I think the range and design are pretty spot on, and would love to own one. I had to buy a frame over the Christmas period, so the first two places I looked at were Dialled Biked and Cotic.
I think I might have to wait until I can afford one before looking there again, but I do plan on buying a PA in the future (I've got a large jar set aside for saving up for it already) as it looks beautiful.
Cotic and Dialled are 2 different models - Cotic is a full on business which Cy is trying to grow into new areas as there's only so many Souls you can sell. Where Mike (as he states) runs Dialled as a hobby.
So to keep a business growing you need to diversify into other areas eventually like Cotic are doing with the 29'ers (although not my bag), and looks like they're going into road bikes as they have a prototype doing rounds at the moment.
Dialled focuses far more on grass roots stuff with BMX and 4X, and Cotic focuses on it's products. Both great companies, and am glad to have owned bikes from each.
Catflees, this is the newest Dialled Bikes BMX frame:
[url] http://www.dialledbikes.com/press-release.php [/url]
If you're referring to FTB, pick up a copy of 2024 BMX magazine, as they just did a 4 page test feature on the prototype frame.
davidtaylforth - Member
I reckon you should do a [u]hardtail for messing about on[/u], like a Trailstar but better.
sometimes 'tongue in cheek' doesnt translate well to text.
I was being serious
Just went to DMR's website to see what the Trailstar is about these days (I remember it being one of the first BSX/jump bikes back in the early Dirt mag days). Couldn't find anything.
You can use most bikes for messing about on. Plenty of people use small Prince Alberts, Alpines or Holeshots for just razzin' in the woods.
You have a BFE at the moment don't you, David. I'd have thought that would be ideal.
Anyone know whats happening re: the Ti Alpine?
Uh huh. They are both away being played with. 1 at STW and 1 with Steve The Butcher at Dirt.
When they have ridden them and offered feedback we will take things forward depending on what the outcome is.
No point rushin' nuffin'.
the trailstar has not been manufactured for a few seasons now
one of my buddies recently picked up a Trailstar frame for £50 thinking it would be a great all rounder for messing around at Woburn / Chicksands and winter trail rides at Swinley
but said the TTL, HA and BBH felt completely wrong compared to modern frames, and promptly sold it and bought a Stanton slackline
1st incarnation, still going strong
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subsequent
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Arg would love to buld my pink Mk1 Prince Albert up again, but i've got a damn seattube corroded into the frame.....and now snapped off from my heavy handed faffing around with it to get it out. Have tried WD40 and bathing it in coke for weeks on end. Need to find someone with the correct size reamer!
I preferred it when you coudl ride it with the wheels on the ground r_d 😉
Gotta say, I love myLove/Hate...
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rode my PA yesterday and it were awesome. A lot of guff chatted there about Cotic inventing top tubes and single speeds!
rode my PA yesterday and it were awesome. A lot of guff chatted there about Cotic inventing top tubes and single speeds!
You know good and well that Gary Fisher invented the top tube!
exactly, thats why i know the cotic chat is nothing but LIES
Lucky we have that knowledge.
Gary Fisher made top tubes longer (and stems shorter) and for that we should be eternally grateful.
Gary Fisher [s]made[/s] INVENTED top tubes [s]longer (and stems shorter)[/s] and for that we should be eternally grateful.
FIFY
so we only need 30 T'alpines ordered.
there must be ten offers already and nobody knows much about or has test ridden the prototypes.
but said the TTL, HA and BBH felt completely wrong compared to modern frames, and promptly sold it and bought a Stanton slackline
I can see the top tube length thing but the head angle on mine is about 67-68 (according to tiltmeter) and the BB a little bit higher than that of the BFe I had. Suppose the trailstar feels a bit livelier/less stable (has shorter chainstays for a start) and I think that's why I like it more. Don't like super stable slack things though, they can be a bit boring to ride.
Please stop posting pictures of P.A's.
Especially the orange ones.
Ta.
hhhmmmm ... softgoods .... hhmmm ...
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Well found, Chewy. In addition to racing BMX and 4X, expanding and art directing the soft goods side of the brand has also been a distraction from designing new frames.
What has she got stuffed up the bottom of her t shirt?
Is is a top secret cotic bmx frame in duraliminum or something?
Seriously though she's got something up there right?
This wine's rather nice..
Control tights
I love my PA, I don't think I'd ever sell it
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On family duties,
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You have a BFE at the moment don't you, David. I'd have thought that would be ideal.
Yes I do, its a 19" so a touch to big for proper razzing about. I tend to do more XC stuff on it these days, although the times I have used it for jumps and downhill its felt decent.
Something more along the lines of that new Stanton frame, but made out of cheaper steel so it would come in around the £250 mark. I reckon you'd do it proud. Bit like a cross between the Holeshot & the Alpine.
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Something more along the lines of that new Stanton frame, but made out of cheaper steel so it would come in around the £250 mark. I reckon you'd do it proud. Bit like a cross between the Holeshot & the Alpine.
How about the NS Surge, specs aren't that far off the mark from a Stanton, and a lot cheaper too.
I love my small BFe for general wood razzing duties - although miss my Holeshot.
I see Mike is thinking of doing another batch of 853 PAs. Looks like a good deal...so tempted.
Something more along the lines of that new Stanton frame, but made out of cheaper steel so it would come in around the £250 mark. I reckon you'd do it proud. Bit like a cross between the Holeshot & the Alpine.
A Holepine?
Souldrummer - Cheers for that, have just sent an email for an 853 frame in red (however have just realised I didn't state the size doh)
Still razzing my Kobe around Sunny Surrey. geometry very similar to St Anton Slackline.....
It was a bike well ahead of its time and still relevant now 😛
A Holepine?
Or an A-Hole... 😉
Nice build there Chunky, almost identical to mine. 8)
Is it one of the 2 or 3 ebb Alpines or did you just get lucky with the ratio?
^^ I think I can just about make out a pinch bolt under the BB?
My ss L/H is not exactly in the right terrain (Basque Country),so it really is a love/hate relationship, but I knew it was a keeper when I bought the t-shirt... never done that in my life!
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It's one of the only two 8)
I found the other (white) EBB Alpine prototype in the warehouse last weekend. Can't remember what size it is, but probably the same size as Chunky's. £200 including UK delivery if anyone is interested.
17" Mike
mike-at-dialledbikes - Member
I found the other (white) EBB Alpine prototype in the warehouse last weekend. Can't remember what size it is, but probably the same size as Chunky's. £200 including UK delivery if anyone is interested.
Oh, now that sounds like a plan Mike..
Can you confim the size... would go well with my Love/Hate...
i think its this one...
mike-at-dialledbikes - MemberI have this frame back from Ali now.
It's a 16" with 22" effective top tube.
I'm not stalking you honest Mike :wink:, we spoke early last year about EBB ones before Ash's came up for sale, i ended up buying a regular one and used the ISCG mount to tension the chain.
My favourite bike by far
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