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Last time a checked speeding was illegal.
Not sure where to check for the combined weight limit of bike and rider on a canal but a dought that she is breaking any laws.😂
I just wish the larger lady that ploughed into Mrs stu last week had been on an ebike instead of in a car.
She might not have been limping round with a smashed up face and broken wrist if she had been.
The problem here is the woman cycling recklessly, not the type of bike. There's a few blind tunnels on the yowpath on my commute and you could easily be doing 15mph on them on a mtb, nevermind a fast road bike.
I was passed by a big lad on a e bike this morning. Surely that's better than him driving past me in a car? Why do people care? Is it the perceived embarrassment of being passed by a less fit rider?
he problem here is the woman cycling recklessly, not the type of bike. There’s a few blind tunnels on the yowpath on my commute and you could easily be doing 15mph on them on a mtb, nevermind a fast road bike.
I'd tend to agree, but the problem with an e-bike (and to a greater extent, other motorised vehicles) is that the power is not generally in proportion to rider experience - it's pretty hard to get bike fit without riding some miles. You'll be slow and stupid to begin with but that's OK, you make your mistakes at a lower speed with fewer consequences.
On an ebike it's still relatively low consequence (hence the speed limit, which I think is appropriate - if you wanna ride faster, get fitter) however speed is not as correlated to experience, it's pretty much 15.5mph or as fast as they consider sensible for everyone.
I kinda agree with the story of non-collisions being quite clearly a rubbish illustration though.
It's a very typical british attitude to only really focus on the negative side of things and to imagine the worst and treat that as the norm..
Oh but what if you walk down the road and a piano falls on your head. Aye, that would that would be bad, we're agreed, can we move on the discussion now.. 😆
She's right about it being in turbo and pulling away from you. But that was the early firmware, Specialized\Brose has already sorted that with the latest update.
28mph uphill hmmmm, maybe on tarmac certainly not off-road! That would take some effort.
He's right about the high-end market; it will be ebikes in 5-8yrs + he's going to miss the boat again! Just like he did with his carbon frames.
28mph uphill hmmmm, maybe on tarmac certainly not off-road! That would take some effort.
....and irrelevant in the UK because it would either be an illegal e-bike or a hero riding unassisted.
I simply don’t think we’ll ever seem the mass adoption of commuting by bike (instead of by car) for the simple reason our weather is terrible!
Copenhagen, where 45% of the population commute by bicycle to their work or study places each day...
I’d tend to agree, but the problem with an e-bike (and to a greater extent, other motorised vehicles) is that the power is not generally in proportion to rider experience – it’s pretty hard to get bike fit without riding some miles. You’ll be slow and stupid to begin with but that’s OK, you make your mistakes at a lower speed with fewer consequences.
15.5 mph is not fast so don't really get your point. An easily achievable speed for a new cyclist on flat tarmac. And if going downhill on the road then a person just stepping onto a normal bike for the first time could get over 30mph.
Copenhagen, where 45% of the population commute by bicycle to their work or study places each day…
Correct me if I'm wrong but Denmark decided to build a lot of cycling infra in the 70s-80s. That was a tipping point in acculturation and one that didn't happen in the UK. As we all know the last 50 years has been increasingly dominated by the car in the UK to the point where it is normalised.
Cycling in the UK is now largely seen as a low-status, annoying, odd, refusenik, laborious, dangerous and even 'childish' transport choice by the majority of Brits who on the flipside see cars as the natural, almost perfect solution to the vast majority of their transport needs (including transport to leisure activities). Cycling for transport was a big part of our culture in the 1900s-1950s It is not now. Denmark made a decision in the 70s-80s. The UK made a different one. So these two countries have nearly 40 years of different culture/infra behind them.
UK also has a lot of rural hilly terrain that 40 years of driving has made 'flat'. And then there's our obesity epidemic (which could be helped by cycle transport choices)
In short, the UK chose the car and that isn't changing significantly as the tipping point was so long ago.
How we travelled in 2016:
ebikes/pedelecs may help encourage a little more cycling in UK cities and on some urban commutes, but as evidenced on STW they also seem to create a lot of disagreement between those who cycle mostly for leisure.
but as evidenced on STW they also seem to create a lot of disagreement between those who cycle mostly for leisure.
This forum is much less representative than most members imagine.
Aye. Fu o wind n pish
Aye. Fu o wind n pish
Don't be so hard on yourself.
It’s a very typical british attitude to only really focus on the negative side of things and to imagine the worst and treat that as the norm..
I think you mean it's a typical attitude for British remainers...
And you don't think the leavers only looked at the negative side of immigration?
The net effect of immigration is positive yet they seem to see that positive as negative. I bet they all ride stupid Turner bikes too.
Turner Flux, Czar, Cyclosys here.
Remainer. 🙂
I think you mean it’s a typical attitude for British remainers…
What utterly pointless drivel.
Anyway, back to the discussion, I don't think we'll ever get to the model of the likes of Amsterdam and copenhagen, as those examples weren't at a time when people were completely self obsessed like they are now.
I do hope I'm wrong mind....