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A cyclist was hit up to 15 times with a hammer in a road rage attack.
Police believe the driver struck because he was irritated the 60-year-old cyclist was taking too long to ride up a hill.
Detective Constable Tony Taylor, said the cyclist, who was not wearing a helmet, was struggling against the wind preventing the driver from passing.
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[url= http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9242970.Hove_cyclist_beaten_15_times_with_hammer_for_riding_too_slowly/ ]http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9242970.Hove_cyclist_beaten_15_times_with_hammer_for_riding_too_slowly/[/url]
I don't swear on here often but for ****s sake what is going on in some people's heads?
Sussex Police web site has the drivers name on it - he's in his early 20's, drives a Nova saloon and lives in Worthing.
the cyclist, who was not wearing a helmet,
Wtf has that got to do with anything? Would the helmet of prevent the road rage attack or helped him not get hurt by the hammer? It might as well of said 'the cyclist who was not wearing baggies' !!
What a T**T...
I wonder what he would like like after being hit 15 times with a set of bombers...
The implication is that we should all wear WW2 tin hats whilst cycling in preparation for disgruntled imbeciles from Worthign venting their wrath on us with clawhammer, I think?
DI Taylor described as a “massive over-reaction”.
What - OVER REACTION - to what?
Written buy someone who doesn't like cyclists and a DI who doesn't either?
DI Taylor described as a “massive over-reaction”.
Understatement of the day?
Not sure of the use of the word reaction TBH, implies some kind of justufucation!
Damit, beeten by foxy's Jadi-Nija posting skillz
I think this is the most shocking thing;
At least four members of the public watched in horror as the cyclist was beaten and hit up to 15 times
These people JUST watched and no-one intervened?? It's not particularly clear in the article so I may be wrong, but if that's true then they deserve similar punishment to the attacker!
According to some on here, it's the fault of people who run red lights. 🙄
Seems DC Taylor also gets a promotion during the article.
If you're too slow at riding up a hill, you derserve everything you get.
These people JUST watched and no-one intervened?? It's not particularly clear in the article so I may be wrong, but if that's true then they deserve similar punishment to the attacker!
Not everyone's Jean Claude Van Damme.
A nutter attacking someone with a hammer is sure to put people off intervening for fear of their own safety.
Dissapointing, but not surprising.
I'm surprised if he had a Nova saloon that he could actually keep up with the cyclist...
Still a shocking thing to happen.
LOL @ T.I.N.A.S
I think this is an appalling article written with no insight and a huge lack of compassion towards the cyclist - of course we don't have all the facts but as above the lack of helmet has absolutely nothing to do with this event!
Wtf has that got to do with anything?
I think it implies that the poor chap didn't even have the albeit limited against a hammer blow protection of a helmet when this loon laid into him.
Written buy someone who doesn't like cyclists and a DI who doesn't either?
+1 starting with the headline.
+1 the (lack of) helmet comment
+1 4 bystanders who did nothing, not even calling the police.
I think it implies that the poor chap didn't even have the (limited against a hammer blow) protection of a helmet when this loon laid into him.
I hope that's the case?
Perhaps we read it the way we want to read it but still seems a very oddly written article to me?
:xThat driver deserves a long long painful prison sentence. 😡
I bet he wasn't even wearing lycra, so not a proper cyclist.
what exactly should i do the next time i see someone* attacking another human being with a hammer?
yes, i'd like to think i could step in, call on the skills of steven seagal, and slap the nutter* down, but here on planet earth we'd just end up with 2 people who'd been hit 30 times with a hammer.
(*clearly a violent nutter, who has a hammer)
yes, i'd like to think i could step in, call on the skills of steven seagal, and slap the nutter* down, but here on planet earth we'd just end up with 2 people who'd been hit 30 times with a hammer.
Not necessarily, in these situations it normally only takes one person to break lines with the observers for others to also step in and help.
But regardless of that how could you not try and help a 60 year old fella that is being attacked. You might not want to, and yes common sense says that it may well end badly for you both but you can't just let it slide. Even from a purely selfish perspective how would you feel afterwards knowing that you stood by and did nothing.
**** sake what is going on in some people's heads?
Obviously not a helmet....
Poor journalism, half a story, hidden agenda's and Police who fudge about. Welcome to the real world!
how would you feel afterwards...?
terrible! - obviously.
in these situations it normally only takes one person to break lines with the observers for others to also step in and help.
your name is chuck norris, and i claim my five pounds.
in other news linked on that site:
[url= http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9231634.Police_probe_after_man_called_woman__fat__in_Newhaven_supermarket/?ref=mr ]Fat woman angry because someone said she is fat[/url]
I love local news 🙂
Dave
i would like to think that i would have tried to stop the nutter.... running at him with my car or removing the wrench from the boot.
cunexttuesuday
alfabus I now have half digested sandwich coming out of my nose.
they had comments enabled on that story originally.
it didn't go well for her, tbh.
your name is chuck norris, and i claim my five pounds.
Cheap shot.
I don't think I made it sound like the nutter would be sorted with swift roundhouse to the head. Just that on some occasions regardless of the potential outcome morally there is little option but to intervene.
[url= http://www.sussex.police.uk/news-and-events/news/2011/09/08/man-charged-after-worthing-road-rage-incident ]Sussex Police News[/url]
Released on bail!
"I think this is an appalling article written with no insight and a huge lack of compassion towards the cyclist"
You're clearly not a regular reader of the Evening Argus then Foxyrider 😉
I don't know where they get the "riding slowly up hill" bit from. There are no hills in Worthing town centre. Tennyson Road is dead flat. It runs N-S & the recent strong winds have been westerlies so he wouldn't have been riding into a headwind.
in other news linked on that site:Fat woman angry because someone said she is fat
[b]I love local news [/b]
Dave
You'll love this
Worthing Magistrates Court on Tuesday 20 September
Any of you live near Worthing? A date for the diary. Fill the gallery wearing cycle helmets and carrying Timmy Mallet inflatable hammers.
That will make the local news
Although using your car as a weapon is clearly A Very Bad Idea, I'm surprised none of the onlookers did.
I know there's no way on God's green Earth I could sit in my car and watch a 20 year old human trying to kill a 60 year old human.
Blimey the Sussex Police write better articles than the News Reporter!!!
from the fat story:
Claire James, who have birth to daughter Ruby four months ago
Staff did nothing I am a member of staff in that Sainsbury's
but claims senior staffdid nothing to help her
They have scheduled an appointment for a facetoface visit and will attend the store
I think the copywriter needs to pull their finger out
[i]Blimey the Sussex Police write better articles than the News Reporter!!![/i]
the owner of the paper employ a central team in Southampton I think who get feeds of all police/fire/etc for all of their local titles and produce articles largely based on the content of the feeds which are then published as 'local' news. Problem is they often don't read the stories properly or have local knowledge so it ends up a badly written, inaccurate piece of work.
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STOP, flashmob time?
The hilarious thing with dick head drivers is that stopping to confront cyclists (or hit them in the head with the hammer) makes them more late than had they just waitied for an opportunity to pass.
Sundays near me are ridiculous.......god forbid someone should hold up a car on a country road at 11.05 am on a Sunday...a frickin Sunday WTF. What neccessitates tear arsing through country lanes like Colin McRae on a Sunday.
The world is full of selfish people and drivers are getting worse from what I have experienced.
A couple of us got beeped on a country lane at 7.30 pm on a weds night by a Learner driver on a lesson. I do hope she wasn't told to.
The world is full of selfish people and drivers are getting worse from what I have experienced.
Some are, some are not IME - on the whole most people seem to be more patient but there are people who are worse - one old gimmer overtook me yesterday so close I was surprised he hadn't hit me with his wing mirror!
Last year I was driving behind a learner (not a school).
There was a cyclist just up front and the learner made no attempt to give any room, in fact he drove past as if the cyclist wasn't there, missing the handlebars by a centimetre and making the rider wobble.
I followed this car for ages, wondering how I was going to tell them. I then realised what would happen if a small female (myself) gets beaten up by the 2 males in the car, whilst trying to explain the consequences of being mowed down by someone inexperienced on our roads.
From my experience recently it seems like a greater spectrum of drivers are becoming less tolerant (as opposed to the stereotypical accusations levelled at gary boys and bmw/audi drivers)
Was part of an incident some months ago where a pensioner in a 4x4 deliberately tried to run us off the road (ended up in court).
Been a number of deaths round here (Bolton/Chorley/Preston) recently.
Gets to the point where we sometimes end up choosing MTB rides over road rides just because the earache from drivers just isnt worth the hassle.
Absolutely disgraceful. The cynt should have been banged up for attempted murder. Silly little chavy scumbag tw*t!
in these situations it normally only takes one person to break lines with the observers for others to also step in and help.
it is true the inaction of all those standing by persuades others it is the correct action. If one person intervenes others almost always will as well.
bearing in mind they have a hammer I would shout from a distance first and hope other folk joined it.
If this failed I would simply disarm them and use the hammer to subdue them some more or run away
From the sussex police web site.
Man charged after Worthing road rage incident
08 September 2011
A man arrested after an apparent road rage incident in Worthing has been charged with attemped grevious bodily harm
The incident happened in Gratwicke Road at about 4.14pm on Wednesday 7 September when a 60-year old local man cycling in the road was in collision with a Vauxhall Nova saloon. A dispute followed, during which the driver of the Nova allegedly went to the boot of hs car, took out a hammer and struck the cyclist on the head with it.
The assailant drove off and the cyclist was treated at Worthing Hospital for cuts to his head but was later discharged. A man was arrested on suspicion of the assault at 6.30pm on the same day
[b][u]Samuel Brownson, 20, of Ambersham Crescent,[/b][/u] East Preston, has been charged with attempting to cause grevious bodily harm to the cyclist and has been released on police bail to appear at Worthing Magistrates Court on Tuesday 20 September.
it is getting worse, I wasn't going to mention this on here, but yesterday after a running argument for a few hundred yards a woman delibrately swerved into me. I avoided any contact, but as she'd already forced up the inside of me i was pretty close to oncoming traffic anyway. very scary.
for context, she believed I'd 'stolen' her space in a queue for a roundabout, after I rode up the outside of said queue. 10 yards after the roundabout traffic was at a crawl again. crazy
Samuel Brownson, 20, of Ambersham Crescent,
Anybody fancy a road trip?
If this failed I would simply disarm them and use the hammer to subdue them some more or run away
simply eh? I wouldn't have a clue how to disarm someone with a weapon, could you share some tips? I'd hope to distract them long enough from a safe distance for the other guy to get away/help.
hmmm i might walk over to lidl car park tonight where the under 20's sit in there shit little big exhaust metal boxes reving there engines at 12 oclock at night & smash the living shit out of em with a hammer. lets see what sort of report i get. i bet it will be a totally different story
Samuel Brownson, 20, of Ambersham Crescent, East Preston
Looks like a very nice street. Was expecting a lot worse.
*s****s* That estate agent's board says Butt */s****s*
in these situations it normally only takes one person to break lines with the observers for others to also step in and help.it is true the inaction of all those standing by persuades others it is the correct action. If one person intervenes others almost always will as well.
bearing in mind they have a hammer I would shout from a distance first and hope other folk joined it.If this failed I would simply disarm them and use the hammer to subdue them some more or run away
It was probably all over very quickly though. I suspect by the time what's happening has properly sunk in and people start to think about what they should do it's pretty much all over in these situations.
How is hitting someone 15 times with a hammer "[i]attempted[/i] grevious bodily harm"
because the victim wasn't that badly injured.
GBH is far worse than ABH so they're going with that to start with.
Gratwicke road is 1 way with ever so slight downhill to flat .. but in the 'legal' direction of travel would of been a funnel for the SW coastal gales the last few days. Tennyson northbound has a ever-so-slight uphill gradient (1 in 40 maybe)but if he was 'climbing' that he'd have had wind assistance for sure.
Driver was just looking for someone to vent anger on from previous something or over and found himself a punchbag on wheels.
As far as East Preston goes (there's a gated community on the coastline) that street's not that nice!
Something (other than the obvious), isn't right here.
How can a twenty year old man hit an (unhelmeted) sixty year old with a hammer 15 times and only lightly injure him?
Is he like that bloke we saw a video of a month back who got out of his car and threw the wendiest punch ever at a cyclist?
Slightly related to this. Worthing council are currently pushing through a 20's plenty campaign, a voluntary 20 mph limit on all non-arterial roads in the town to encourage walking & cycling.
"No cameras, no speed humps, just the people of Worthing agreeing to make their town a safer, more pleasant place for everyone."
Nice idea, but it's pie in the sky. Most drivers just don't give a toss about other road users.
grahamb - [rant] I like the fact that one of (the only trial area I've noticed) is the Dome/Pier roundabout and 100 yards either side where you pretty much have to go 20 because you're either slowing down for, speeding up from, or in traffic around the roundabout!
The signs are different from standard speed limit (standard red circle but set into a larger rectangular white background) signs and set so far back from the road they'r barely noticeable
How is that an in depth trial?
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Imabigkidnow - lol, i hadn't even noticed that. That's a totally useless place for a 20 limit as far as cyclists are concerned. Most would be riding along the seafront path.
My Sister hit me round the head with a claw hammer when i was 6 .
Still, I put my Bro in hospital by pushing him down a flight of stone steps .....He was 6 at the time.
If my head was hard enough to take 15 hammer blows without serious injury, I wouldn't bother wearing a helmet either!
Madness!
A couple of us got beeped on a country lane at 7.30 pm on a weds night by a Learner driver on a lesson. I do hope she wasn't told to.
Hyasynth Bucket wasn't in the passenger seat was she?
Wow... I would say I'm stunned by this article... however it appears there some crap like this being shoved in our face every day by the media.
I am surprised that this guy has been let out on bail... if attacking another human being with a hammer because he was in your way isn't a good enough example of being a danger to society... I don't know what is.
It just calls to the blood for a more old fashioned form of justice.
[b]grahamb[/b] - and the pedestrian crossings within 20 yards either side of the roundabout also do a good job of controling speed .. you're entirely correct about the riding along the prom .. that's the way I pass it.
as for the other car horn comment from someone else
here's the highway code:
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Problem is that it's so predominantly used aggressively that when someone does it out of politeness it's misinterpreted though maybe that learner driver just panicked and hit a horn while reaching for the indicator. So many people just panic when they reach something slower than themselves on single carriageways
It's like flashing of lights.
The technical use for flashing of lights is to warn other drivers that you're coming through.
The common useage is to 'wave someone on'.
Be warned if your driving in Kuwait or The Lebanon as the common useage there is 'I'm not stopping / I'm coming through'.
A couple of us got beeped on a country lane at 7.30 pm on a weds night by a Learner driver on a lesson. I do hope she wasn't told to.
I was once coming round a completely blind corner on a singletrack country lane with high hedges on both sides, so I beeped to let any oncoming road users know I was there. There was a big group of cyclists round the corner who assumed I was beeping at them, then proceeded to give me the Vs and shout abuse at me.
Just goes to prove that poor road skills / lack of road awareness are not the preserve of car drivers.
