[Closed] Crud Road Racer Mudguards

My brother has some, he rates them quite higly and they look OK too, IMO

Hardly notice them, fit under standard Dura-Ace calipers and keep the road spray to a minimum. Anything else?

i've got a question - can they [i]only[/i] be mounted on the front if you have a caliper brake to attach them to? if not, is it possible to get them close to the front tyre with no front brake, and a larger gap up from guard to crown?

[i]Hardly notice them, fit under standard Dura-Ace calipers and keep the road spray to a minimum. Anything else?[/i]

Nope that'll do for me. On the Christmas list they go. (anyone got Santa's address?)

they fit under close clearance road calipers fine, because they're designed to

if you haven't got a front caliper to mount them to i guess you could put a bolt through the hole in the fork and strap the guards to that, might require bodging

cheers for the info.

I have attempted to fit these mudguards to a cross bike with Cantis, the problem is there is no brake bolt to hang the mudguard from, I tried mounting them to the crown of the fork/frame but the distance was too large and they rubbed on the tyre at the rear. I then tried making a spacer but that was pretty crap.
I ended up putting my SKS Race Blades back on with a cable tie to attach them to the crown of the fork/frame.
The Crud guards are also pretty flimsy, I know they are designed to break if they get caught in your machinery, but they don't look like they will last long. I am sticking with the SKS Race Blades.

Doug

I have attempted to fit these mudguards to a cross bike with Cantis, the problem is there is no brake bolt to hang the mudguard from, I tried mounting them to the crown of the fork/frame but the distance was too large and they rubbed on the tyre at the rear. I then tried making a spacer but that was pretty crap.

So, basically you've attempted to use them for something they are not designed for, and due to them not working you think they are crap?? 🙄

Take them off before sticking your bike in the car! I now have to straighten one of the arms - doh!

I've got a set I've fitted but don't now need. Will do them for £15 posted if anyone is interested.

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I couldn't use the forward extension of the rear mudguard without it fouling the tyre. In fairness, I had as much rubber under the brakes as I was going to et away with, so I'm not surprised. Wettest ride in today I''ve had for a while, and my feet and backside in particular arrived a lot drier than I expected. I like them, and they look vastly better than raceblades. 🙂

Maltloaf, I guess having them before Xmas won't hurt. ygm

if you want to fit guards on a 'cross bike you've bought the wrong bike and should have got a tourer with the ability to fit a nice proper full set of mudguards on

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JoB's got a point there!

I bought them for my touring bike as I hate propper guards with a passion (shocking looks, disproportionate weight, noisy, not exactly aero, snap-tastic, need adjusting ecary time the bike gets clattered in the rack).

Anyone got a bodge to fit them?

Or care to recomend some good touring guards that actualy work in the real world? Mr Crud, are you out there? Can you make one (or just addapters) for touring bikes pretty please?

Nah, Jo's just a mudguard Nazi (Godwin?) 🙂

i'm a YouThinkYoureTooCoolForATouringBikeSoYouBoughtACrossBike Nazi actually

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I bought them for my touring bike as I hate propper guards with a passion (shocking looks, disproportionate weight, noisy, not exactly aero, snap-tastic, need adjusting ecary time the bike gets clattered in the rack).

I didn't have any of those problems with my SKS chromoplastics attached to proper mudguard eyes, apart from the aero point, but when I'm commuting in the rain and wind with a bunch of stuff I'm more worried about being dry than being aero. Looks are for you to decide, but I quite like the look of bikes that have been well designed for their function.

Dont fit on my Giant SCR3 with 25c tyres and I suspect they may not even fit with 23c tyres either as the arms dont quite seem long enough so I have switched back to front race blade and rear bolt on SKS.

see i've got this fork:
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(though not attached to the same bike as above) and want to achieve a nice snug fit for the front guard, but don't know what is used in this pic:
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or where one obtains one!

A guy at work has the cruds and hates them. We all use Race Blades, and unless you're the guy sat behind them and aren't bothered about how they look they're better it'd seem. Bits keep falling off his! The end bits of the flaps, the bushings etc.

Theflatboy - I'd hazard a guess that's a cork. Or, if it isn't I think a cork would probably work. 🙂

Jo, what's your take on a cross bike for racing and commuting on during the week (with raceblades)? 😉

i have just put some crud ones, on my old 70's pug it has campag brakes they fitted very well , they do fit very tight to the tyre tread and side wall , but with the adjustment provided it was possible to get them clear ,,
not sure how well the little furry pads on the braking surface will last

overall well engineered product

Maybe its just the make/model I had on my last bike, no idea what they were, but they were properly attached, yet the slightest knock would bend the stays, making them rub, which meant when locking the bike up the either the lock, the stand or the next bike to be pile in would add 5 minutes faffing before I could get on my way again,

They were last seen flying over a hedge soemwhere in Berkshire folowed by a streak of expletives so blue they'd make an Italian blush.

"[i]Jo, what's your take on a cross bike for racing and commuting on during the week (with raceblades)? [/i]"

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cheers BD, the man himself has confirmed the very same! sure i've got a cork or two lying around!

they're designed for tyres up to 23mm...

Won't fit my carbon Defy, so have had to get SKS Raceblades instead 🙁

I fitted a pair to my Cervelo soloist, no problem on the rear, but I couldn't get the front on without it rubbing and it drove me mad so I took them off again. Wish I'd bought the SKS ones now 🙁

rtfm or failing that [url= http://www.youtube.com/user/MrJamietom84 ]wtfv[/url]

I couldn't get them to fit under my Mavic SSC brakes (with 23mm GP4000), even after WTFV.

very happy with my crud road racers, but I did have to modify them by extending the rear mudguard down to the BB with a bit of old sks mudguard. Without that extra bit any water picked up would get thrown straight onto the back of my legs and chain.

adstick - Member

they're designed for tyres up to 23mm...

25mm actually

I like them apart from the pathetic squeaking they make and I just can't adjust them to stop it.

good guards, used on TCR with Ultegra.

I know two people who have fitted them and have done it wrong so they dont like the crud guards. Shame as I think its a good fix.

The best thing is get a winter bike with mudguard eyes cos none of the race guards/clip on options are the real deal are they.

you will Get kicked to the back of the winter club run

Anyone found a source of re-usable zip-ties yet?

My 2penneth.....

I had to take a craft knife to my crud guards as the clearance under the fork on my Scapin was very tight. Think this is mentioned in the instructions as a possibility. But it really didn't take long (would recommend a responsible adult does this for you though) they now work beautifully.

I've got a Peregrine too, & the wheel clearances are huge, so spacers required to get a nice snug & streamlined fit for full length guards. You can get proper spacers but I've just used cork (like Sam in the pic above). Looks spot on & the huge clearance means that I can whip the guards off & race 'cross at the weekend :0)

I think they're great. Million times better than raceblades which look awful, rattle and give no brake coverage.

Oh & worth mentioning that a set of Race Blades has found itself abandoned in a hedge before now.

I like mine....a little tricky to set up so the wee pads don't rub, I thought I had mine perfect then I had to reset them after the first ride and they have been fine ever since. They are a whole lot better than race blades.

The bike I have them on is a Vitus carbon job with very, very tight clearance.

They fit my Trek 1.5 with 25mm Bontrager tyres on....

And I can vouch for the spares replacement - somehow the section of the blade itself that bolts to the strut managed to snap. On reflection I'll admit it may have been more to do with toe overlap turning a corner than poor product.

Anyhow, I sent the old blade back and received a full new set by return, no questions. They even rang me to tell me a replacement was on the way. Excellent customer service!!

Teetosugars - Did I say the Crud Guards were crap?

I think I said the spacer I made was crap "I then tried making a spacer but that was pretty crap", yes the mudguards aren't designed for cross bikes, but they looked a good product so I thought I would try them.

I use the road-racers on my Caad 9 and have found them very effective. They took awhile to fit (with 23mm Conti tyres) but have been worth it. They work well in the wet and look much better than other brands.

Worked straight out the bag on my Condor Pista. A bit of bodging to create some spacers for the set on my other half's Roadrat.

Both sets work pretty damn well. I've managed to lose the front tail of mine, probably due to toe overlap issues, but it doesn't seem to have affected things massively.

I have now taken the plunge and bought those offered on the previous page of this ere thread. I won't hear the pads rubbing if they do, anyway. iPod will drown it out 🙂

Both sets work pretty damn well. I've managed to lose the front tail of mine, probably due to toe overlap issues, but it doesn't seem to have affected things massively.

JonEdwardes get in touch via the website...crudproducts.com....I'll send you a new tail.

I had the lower part of my front one fall off today, I knew the toe overlap was tight on my commuter but didnt know it was that tight,,

not too worry it still keeps most of the water off, ,, so will do without it,,

Get in touch Ade, I'll sort you with a new tail...crudproducts.com
Can we PM on this site? I haven't found the link if it's there.

Got a set a few days ago, just watched the you tube vid on how to set them up and will be fitting later. Pictures to follow.

Love mine. Had them on for a few weeks and have used them loads. Lots better than race blades IMO and many of my friends also use them and no complaints from them either.

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Fitted mine and am very pleased although i did have to cut the back one down as suggested on their YouTube video due to the lack of clearance.
I would also recommend placing the little brush strips at the very end once your happy with the position of everything as i put mine on to early and placed them slightly in the wrong place (bugger)

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JonEdwards - Member
Worked straight out the bag on my Condor Pista. A bit of bodging to create some spacers for the set on my other half's Roadrat.

What was the bodging involved to get them to run on the rat?

I fancy fitting some of these to mine (despite the ample clearance - I'm a tart and hate the look of normal guards).

_dredges up an old thread on mudguards on a hot sunny day_

So how did we get on with our Crud Racers over the last year or so?

I'm desperate to drop the hammer on a CAAD10 (if they ever turn up) but have a niggling doubt about how good these will be. I've had a look at the bike and fork clearance is tight with 23s, I will have it as my only road bike for year round muddy backlane commute plus fun rides on occasion. I have a full guard steel bike at the moment which could be dredged up in the depths of winter but hope I won't have to.

How do they work on muddy lanes, do they rub, did anyone end up abandoning them, did anyone have something get stuck betwixt tyre and guard?

Someone reassure me it will all be fine!

I used them for a year, I think virtually every part broke, they rubbed constantly (they're kinda designed to), and were generally a bit crap.

The newer style ones look marginally better, but are still far too fragile. If you ever lift the bike onto it's back wheel (get it into a bike rack or sommat) then they'll break.

Switched to Race Blades this winter which have been immeasurably better, easier to fit, much more sturdy, keep you just as dry (although I realise the coverage isn't actually quite as good). I will be able to use them for a second winter too. The Cruds went in the bin - there wasn't enough left to use!

Hmmm, not the reassurance I was hoping for, but better to know now than make a £1200 error. Thanks for the update njee.

Anyone else had a similar experience?

£1200 error!? Are you looking at diamond studded mudguards!?

Don't be put off the bike because Crud Road Racers aren't good, Race Blades etc will still fit just fine.

I've got the newer ones and they've been fine.

I broke the front centre section putting the bike in the car, but got a replacement in a couple of days.

The rear one sways about a bit, but works fine. They don't rub if you set them up as per the instructions - have only just got round to putting the brushes on, but they were fine without.

Mine were slightly warped out of the box but I reset them using a hairdryer.

I'd use them again on another bike, but might try raceblades as a comparison.

£1200 error as would end up with the wrong bike! The other option at the moment is the Kinesis Gran Fondo which allows traditional guards, albeit only with smallish clearance to 23mm tyres, but I REALLY want the Cannondale.

So buy it, there's plenty of guards that'll fit, even if you don't like the Cruds.

mine are fitted to 25mm conti 4 seasons, had to file a little recess under the fork crown and there was no way I'd have had enough clearance under the front brake caliper so I cut it off there and it still works really well. just fitted new front brushes today funnily enough.

The newer style ones look marginally better, but are still far too fragile. If you ever lift the bike onto it's back wheel (get it into a bike rack or sommat) then they'll break.

It's sounding more promising, may just go for another little look in the shop tomorrow...

Thanks all.

I find them a pita to be honest. Wish i had got race blades. The rub brushes didnt last long i have a crack on the rear tail where it joins not bad for 6 months!

I've got them on my Boardman - rub a little but not enough to be a problem. I've only done about 500 miles since they've been fitted so can't really comment on durability yet.

No mudguards are going to be pretty, but these aren't too obtrusive:
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I've got some on my Trek

Easy to fit and keep the spray off. If it's muddy then mud can get caught between guard and tyre but it soon goes away.

As others have said, be careful if you lift the bike up on its back tyre. I snapped the end of the back guard doing this.

Had some on my Planet X SL; tried everything with them to make them fit. They ended up in a field in Machen after I ripped them off on a particularly rubbing ride.

I got them back out of the field a few weeks later as I'm not one to leave litter. I've decided there's not much wrong with a wet arse, unless it's really cold - that's what those Endura eVent 3/4's are for that were going for £50.

Sean
~200k's a week

Without exception, every set I've seen a customer complain about have been badly fitted - ignoring the actual instructions. Typically, the zip-tie around the brake bolt has been pulled tight, distorting the guard and causing it to rub.