because my arse is in bits at present.
fitted a brooks cambium to replace a worn out b17. my arse is now raw, with 2 very large boils on one side near my ring.
i need something wide, 150mm or so and long, 270mm
any idea's.
The saddle that came on my nukeproof was horrendous on my sit bones. That bad that I robbed the cheap bonty one of the sons bike!
That's now splitting so watching this thread with interest..
Another B17?
Another B17?
thought i would have a change, the one i replaced tore away from the front rivet. the cambium was a replacement.
never had a damaged b17 before, i guess it might have put me off a bit.
All boils down to what fits your arse, but fwiw my two go too saddles are charge spoon (cheap option - £20) or fizik gobi (expensive option, but more comfortable c £90)
flux (same shape as spoon, feels a bit softer though) or a bel air on my bikes both comfy but I'll probably just get flux from now on as they are cheap
Fabric scoop shallow. Only had it 3 weeks, and it's the comfiest saddle I've had to date. Fabric have 3 saddle widths, 3 levels of curve/sag and then a multitude of rails/ hull materials. Got to be one there for you.
Smp Tony after trying loads after I got back riding I couldn't get comfy. Cyclesense in tad let me trial 2 different ones before I bought too. They look silly but are great
I got a Charge Spoon £16 other week from Wiggle. Replaced a £70 Ti Falcon I suffered for too long - it sounded bling and came on the bike so should be better than a cheap one, right?. Had a Spoon on the other bike and it'd never caused the same suffering.
I guess it's a case of you either get lucky with the saddle that comes with your bike, or trial and error to buy a 3rd party/specialist fitted saddle.
I can do 6 hours on my standard carrera saddle with no real issues, up it to 8 hours and I get some notable discomfort (to the point I have to stand on the pedals to relive the discomfort for a few mins at a time) which I negate by wearing padded inner shorts on long rides .. Not sure what the proper name for them is.. I call them incontinence pants!
Fabric Scoop here too
ISM Peak for MTB, no pressure on soft bits !
Spoons are a bit narrower than 150mm, nearer 143. Specialized do a wide, 150mm saddle though. Might be worth a try Tony?
Old style Selle Italia Flite for me. I've used loads others and occasionally try something else but I always end up on a Flite, both for road and off road.
However, I do know that the lack of channel and general firmness doesn't suit everyone at all.
Cyclesense also are a fizik test center too tony
Selle SMP Dynamic Carbon on road bike and Selle SMP Lite 209 steel on mtb
Specialized Henge here.
I got on with Flites for years then had one with an embroidered logo on the sides and i was literally a pain in the arse. I changed to Fizik and they've been fine but I don't think the quality's as good as the Flite.
not many of these seem like 'comfy' saddles
charge spoon? fairly minimal and hard.
[b]I[/b] like WTB saddles and their site lets you sort through sizes i think quite easily.
i'm planning on getting a WTB Pure some time soon, tho not sure it fits your sizes
got an SMP, not sure which but quite squishy, really comfy for a while, now i find it weird. pushes my sits bones apart, or seems to
just ordered a wide leather saddle. stick with what i know and keep my fingers crossed.
tried a few of the ones reccomended...charge spoon, too hard, charge scoop, too soft. spesh saddles used to fit me, now they dont.
sdg belair used to fit me, now too narrow. fizik rubbed my arse crease. the saddle on my cube fits me, looked for one, cant find one.
cheers all.
Got spoons on all my bikes , cheap and seems to fit my fat arse well 🙂
If you want wider than the spoon/scoop what about the fabric cell? I had a scoop and now have the cell and it loads comfier. But heavier but then so am I.
b17, you know it makes sense 8)
Charge/Fabric saddles are narrow.
+1 WTB Pure
Have you had a saddle fitting?
selle smp saddles ,look funny but my backside and dangle berry's loves them!
Whatever worked last time, asking on the internet as to what will fit your arse is pointless.
Same as ianC for me....ISM peak....numbness,where you don't want numbness, a thing of the past.
OP...B17 rider here and it's just the best (how STW predictable)
On a slight aside and not wanting to divert your thoughts away from a good saddle but a 100% clean chamois for every ride usually sorts boils out very quickly. Are you sure your's is clean! 😉
after being a bit strange initially i really like the fizik gobi now.
flexy were needed, stiff were needed - I'm sure theres a joke in there somewhere but I'm a bit sleepy today.
arse - saddle interface is very personal though.
Charge and fabric for me. Someone above said they are narrow which the standard ones are (although I have used narrower). Lasttime I looked Fabric had massively increased the range of options and had some in different widths. Worth a look.
Charge spoon!
I'm 17+ stone and it takes my weight.
Might be worth contacting some Cube dealers as customers will often want to replace the OEM saddle and the shops try to sell them off. Square Wheels in Strathpeffer maybe?the saddle on my cube fits me, looked for one, cant find one.
fitted a brooks cambium to replace a worn out b17. my arse is now raw, with 2 very large boils on one side near my ring.
I had this problem after using a Cambium for a while, I persevered with the Cambium as it was a Xmas present.
Last resort was swapping over to different (i.e. newer and not worn ) shorts that had a slightly thicker/firmer pad - this sorted it out for me last year.
His opening gambit is:
"[i]i need something wide, 150mm or so and long, 270mm[/i]"
and NO-ONE has made any innuendo based comments on that thus far...
Shame on you STW. Ten minutes on teh naughty step.
DrP
Charge Spoons on all my bikes. The only thing I don't like is the stitching which can cause some wear on lycra.
Are the Fabric saddles similar in shape & comfort?
I used to get on with a charge spoon when they first came out, also managed with most minimal padded saddles. I now think I need a wide saddle. I don't have a lot of natural padding on my arse, but when it rubs it is from a saddle being too narrow.
in 30 odd years of cycling I have never worn padded shorts. today I am wearing some endure padded undies, with a massive dollop of germaline smeared around my ring.
Charge Spoon here on 2 out of 3 bikes.
Shame you don't get on with them - pretty good perch for £20ish...
Anyone use a Spesh Toupe Sport(the cheap one)? I got measured the other day and told I need a 155mm wide saddle, and the shop recommended this. This is on a Croix de Fer.
Anyone use a Spesh Toupe Sport(the cheap one)? I got measured the other day and told I need a 155mm wide saddle, and the shop recommended this.
I once bought a Specialized Avatar in medium, having been measured by the shop. It was by some distance, the most uncomfortable saddle I have ever owned.
Tony - I've got an SQLab 610 doing nowt if you want to give it a whirl? Only 140mm wide, but nice and long at about 295mm. I didn't get on with it as it felt too wide for me, but the padding is good. You're welcome to it if you want to give it a go.
woody2000, thanks for the offer mate, much appreciated. I have a 178mm wide leather saddle winging it's way to me. I will wait for it to land.
cheers
Surprised there's only been one mention of a saddle fitting. Always thought it was a bit of a dumb-arsed OTT idea until I bought a new saddle from my LBS which was properly fitted.
No more numb-nuts or saddle sores!! 🙂
I'm ok on road bikes.
B17 if upright, B17 Narrow or Rolls if racy.
Struggle with MTB's, Spoons OK but not great, Bel Air probably the best.
Need to go for a fitting, tbh.
Which Cube saddle, I've got a cube branded saddle here I keep meaning to stick on the classifieds.
Charge/Fabric saddles are narrow.
Really? I always thought they were quite wide and I'm no skinny racing snake! i think the Spoon and Knife saddles are awful things.
I use an SDG I or Ti Fly on my bikes.
Spa cycles Nidd?
IMO they are a more sturdy leather than Brooks
Do the latest Charge/Fabric scoops make that horrendous creaking/cracking noise? Both of my scoops do but then again most mtb saddles either fall apart, cripple you or creak. At least the scoop is comfortable and stays in one piece.
I have an ergon SMC3 it comes in different widths, might be worth a look? its really comfy, all day rides and it has not made itself felt. Buy from ze Germans.
You are welcome to jump on my bike if your local.
I am still trying to break in a brooks swift, had the bike nearly a year, that is grim.
But my road bikes use a selle SLR in leather and these are not great.
Do the latest Charge/Fabric scoops make that horrendous creaking/cracking noise? Both of my scoops do but then again most mtb saddles either fall apart, cripple you or creak. At least the scoop is comfortable and stays in one piece.
Don't know, but I've just given up on my Scoop and ordered another spoon for the Solaris. Shame as I found the scoop pretty comfy, but the creaking drove me nuts.
No creaks from my Fabric Scoop. Seems well made - very clean looking with no stitching anywhere. Have you tried some oil into the rails/ base sockets?
Do the latest Charge/Fabric scoops make that horrendous creaking/cracking noise? Both of my scoops do but then again most mtb saddles either fall apart, cripple you or creak. At least the scoop is comfortable and stays in one piece.
Both of the Charge Knife's that I had did the same too. Not impressed given the price.
No creaks from my Fabric Scoop. Seems well made - very clean looking with no stitching anywhere. Have you tried some oil into the rails/ base sockets?
Oil, copper-slip, general grease, leaving it upside down overnight; tried the lot, but the damn thing still creaks like crazy. I'm not giving up on it totally though. I'll give it a good clean and have a play with it once it's off the bike. But the Spoon suits me pretty well too and at less than <£20 it was worth it to have something while I try to resurrect the Scoop.
Another ISM (claw hammer!) saddle user here.
Using the breakaway model (one of the more padded ones) for mtb / commuting. Wouldn't go back to using a regular saddle - they are just so different. Lumpy bits that needed surgery to fix (before ISM) have now repaired of their own accord - probably because I'm not sat on them anymore!
Demo saddles were available from Pedal Pedal. Takes a few rides to get used to sitting on different areas.
SDG Bel-air for me - comfy from day one.
Spesh Toupes on both my bikes, but I have a weird arse 🙂 Years of road bikes when younger have moulded me to fit well on narrow, hard saddles.
Pretty much every ride I go on, someone will mention that it looks uncomfortable.
<shrug>
Lots of suggestions on previous thread [url= http://http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/lardarses-what-saddle-are-you-using ]here[/url]
Bel Air and anything from Charge do not meet the width test. Ergon SM3 has hard padding and a definite sweet spot, find it and it is very comfortable, lose it and it is excruciating. I found I averaged roughly 25% of any ride in the sweet spot so it followed the bel airs onto ebay. Spec Henge gets rave reviews but I think they were for the mark1, current one I found fairly short on padding and after an hour was like sitting on plywood.
Wide WTB Rocket V seems the best for me. Various options for price and padding as well as width. For armchair comfort on the 29+ rigid I have a Terry Figura Max Gel bought from Rose.
I looked at the Brooks Cambium but decided they might have the capacity to be seriously painful. Thanks for doing the experiment Ton.
I also tried the greasing, cleaning and oiling etc of the Charge Scoop but nothing worked. The design moves around on the rails and I think thats what makes the noise. Pity as otherwise very good.
SDG Belair most comfortable for me, pity they fall apart so quickly.
Haven't tried anything from WTB for over 12 years, maybe give them a go next.
I find Selle Italia Turbos comfy for me, not the lightest out there but comfort takes priority over that(its on my roadie which is light enough anyway)
Just got a Selle Regale to try on my MTB as it seems a similar shape but is lighter and was cheap in the On one xmas sale.
SDG Bel-Air on the MTBs that will be replaced with Prologo Scratch as they're falling apart. The Prologo does me very nicely for long days in the saddle on the road and CX.
WTB Volt for me. 150mm wide, 260mm long