[Closed] Cheap Sleeping Bags? Summiteer

No idea who they are but 1kg is heavy for a bag rated to 0c

But it is cheap.

Having spent a long time researching down bags, only to give up and buy a BNWOT one from ebay, I can definitely say that is dirt cheap!

Proudly Made in China with ethically sourced down

Someone doesn't want you to know who they are.

https://who.is/whois/summiteerequipment.com

Taunton leisure are doing 50% off Mountain Equipment down doss bags if you want a half decent one..

Hi Guys,

This is Ethan Thomas here. I am the founder and director of Summiteer. I saw from our website analytics that Summiteer had been linked through this site and was intrigued, and as it was 3am and I was up watching ‘in the night garden’ with my 11 month old daughter (failing to get her back to sleep), I decided to have a look. I don’t generally get involved in online forums but seeing the comments in this thread, I realise that a few of you may have made a few inaccurate assumptions and I thought I must try and give you all a slightly better idea about my brand, Summiteer.

Firstly as stated in the original comment Needle Sports are stocking us and I certainly think that says a lot about Summiteer itself. Needle Sports are a highly respected climbing shop in the uk and do only stock the best quality of kit. The process involved in them deciding to stock a new manufacturer isn’t simple and it involved a lot of meetings between myself and the management of the shop. Needle Sports were very keen to support us particularly as we are local (we’re kendal they’re Keswick) and they quite rightly spotted a great quality product at a brilliant RRP.

I wouldn’t say that we are an ‘unknown company’ I would describe us as an new company that a lot of you have yet to hear of. And perhaps that is where a lot of the misunderstanding comes from, with people assuming that because of this we might steal your bank details and head to the nearest Porsche dealership. I might too have the same concerns in your situation.

My whole aim starting out a new company competing in an already busy market was to price things very competitively (dirt cheap you might also call it!). I must say this was quite hard to do, but through having slightly smaller profit margins than perhaps some more mainstream manufacturers and working very hard to achieve good relationships with my factory, and then for a while only selling direct to customers it means that Summiteer has achieved that. Most manufacturers design their kit in the uk and have it made in China, and sell in retailers whilst also selling direct on their website. Alpkit obviously just doing the latter, which still is a well used business model they have been very successful in using.

I suppose you don’t know for sure that when we start selling direct to our customers we don’t suddenly take the role of a fraudulent website, but it seems highly implausible doesn’t it? We are stocking in retail stores and have a pretty open, honest website, displaying our office address, email and phone number (should you want to ring up to clarify this with us). Also we use Shopify as our platform and all card transactions are encrypted anyway, so we would never see a customers card details. I forgot we were on amazon, thanks for reminding me I could do with taking that off actually - its been a bit of a waste of time so far, although it obviously serves the purpose of making us seem more legit.

I’m not entirely sure what Matt’s comment is suggesting- “someone doesn’t want you to know who they are”. When I click his link it takes me to a website I have not come across telling geeky information (which I don’t understand) about the server we use for our website, but I suppose the fact I am writing this post in the first place, telling you exactly who we are would suggest that his point isn’t quite true.

I can see Junkyard’s concerns with his/her comment about us being made in china with ethically sourced down. Proving down is ethically sourced is a challenge for any manufacturer, in fact I wrote a blog article all about it a few months ago that you can read on our site. If you read this blog this backs up that statement a bit more. But failing that I’m actually flying over to visit the factory in January and would love some company if you’re heading over that way too?

I hope I have cleared a few things up. I don’t mean to intrude or anything and I appreciate the interest in Summiteer, and understand that it is natural for you to have concerns about a brand you haven’t come across yet. Hopefully me adding my piece to it at the very least means that any naive web browser doesn’t stumble across this page, read the previous comments and get the wrong idea about Summiteer. If any of you have any further enquiries your best bet is to give me a call. Our phone number is clearly displayed on our website, ask for Ethan (me), and I’ll be happy to chat. So far we have focused on the climbing/ hillwalking market, but it is very nice to see us getting noticed by cyclists now too.

all the best

Nice reply there, if not a little wordy. 😆

I have to say that when looking at a lot of outdoor kit that contains the word 'down' my first thought does go to the conditions under which those feathers were obtained.
I've seen a few videos/photos of birds being live plucked & it's a pretty grim situation just so someone can wrap up warm.

Ethant - once you have been on your visit to China it might be worth expanding on your one line a the bottom of the product that states it's ethical down? Perhaps a link to some info from your visit, just to reassure potential customers that they can buy your products with a clear conscience.

I for one wouldn't go near any down product I had my doubts about, so providing a bit more information would really help (in my opinion, anyway).

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I always consider the health of the bird if I'm going down too.

Applauds scotsroute.

I can see Junkyard’s concerns with his/her comment about us being made in china with ethically sourced down.

Best of luck with the business but dont expect to much sense from us.