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1) Never venture on to thin ice
2) Thick ice on the other hand is fine
Doubly stupid - the car driver didn't have right of access on the canal anyway - ergo it's a criminal offence.
AFAIK the cyclist on the other hand would - providing he / she exercises that right responsibly. I think it could reasonably be argued that 6" of solid ice is more than capable of supporting a push bike and rider.
I wonder why it is that ice is singled out as so uniquely dangerous compared to other things like riding bikes down rocky trails or crossing the road ?
I've fallen off my bike loads of times and am still breathing, but wouldn't fancy my chances falling through the ice even once, especially something as deep as a canal
I suggest that you have never fallen through any ice and are just blissfully ignorant what would happen, the shock alone could kill you, but ultimately if some dude in those blue shorts had photographed my daughter like you've posted above I'd be wanting a quiet word in your ear. 😕
EDIT - and I'm not suggesting any bad intentions
if some dude in those blue shorts had photographed my daughter
Will the camera steal her soul or something?
enfht - MemberI've fallen off my bike loads of times and am still breathing, but wouldn't fancy my chances falling through the ice even once, especially something as deep as a canal
And I have walked on frozen canals rivers and lakes many times and still am alive - 'cos I have a thing called a brain that allows me to make judgements about what is safe and what is not.
BTW - canals are not deep - usually only around 3 ft in the middle
double fail there enfit
Oh look - people enjoing themselves on a frozen lake in Scotland this week.
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the car driver didn't have right of access on the canal anyway - ergo it's a criminal offence.
well, it might be in a car, but not having right of way is a tort not a crime
but ultimately if some dude in those blue shorts had photographed my daughter like you've posted above I'd be wanting a quiet word in your ear
to say what ? No laws were infringed, it was a public place and I was quite open about it. I don't understand how the shorts are even relevant - I always wear shorts.
iirc torts can also be crimes and the police have used the RTA to prevent / prosecute vehicles travelling other than on roads without lawful authority.
Regardless - fair to say the Winchburgh canal duo are on thin ice 😉
Lake of Menteith curling cancellation a sad day for common sense...
iirc torts can also be crimes
yes, but they aren't always - and the law is more restrictive on vehicles than other modes of transport like bikes and horses
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3ft?
So cold it could stop your heart beating with the shock, and so much mud below, how deep I can't tell.
I just thinks it's an unnecessary risk - you clearly thought it was worth the effort. I confess that all my own rides down by our local canal did not once look inviting or interesting enough to warrant the effort on my part.
One thing - like it or not, people have a habit of rushing to the aid of others, & in so doing, putting themselves in danger (& seemingly to end up on the 6 o'clock news) . Your actions might well have indirectly have affected others were you to have come to grief in the canal, but not in a favourable way.
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it's a canal, but drier...
Actually looks rather wetter than yours, sfb.
we should all stop biking immediately, in case we crash in a position where we might find someone rushing to our aid and risking themselves.
And complaining about the photos, jesus christ on a bike, get a life. What is it about this forum that turns normal people into paranoid, safety freakish, anti-photos-of-my-family oddballs?
Actually looks rather wetter than yours, sfb
that's deceptive, under the ice it's 99% as wet as usual :o)
doesn't look much more than 3 ft - and the water is not cold enough to stop a health heart from shock.
Moast canals are about 3 ft deep - a canal boat usual draws abhout 2 ft of water
Let me reassure you good people that the national treasure known as SFB was never in any danger. I had already strapped on my hockies and personally inspected the canal in question for 10 miles either side of his photo opportunity. To be on the safe side, and knowing what a wag he is for the unexpected, I also checked the River Lune above Skerton weir. All was thick ice, so much so that I felt it safe to jump some 'moist bridge underparts'! 8)
TJ please don't diminish the heroic danger of my deeds! (Canals are only really deep at locks, most people don't realise this.)
It's all relative:
It's all relative:Wel you wouldn't want to walk on that ice - too many holes in it.
I've done it in the past up in the Kilpatricks when it was really really cold for a long period and tested with a 1' square rock dropped from 10'. It was stupid and foolish, but i wouldn't want to risk it after a couple of days worth of cold down south.
Its all down to personal choice, if you fancy it, go for it!
TBH The fear's got me these days and i'd quite like to see my son grow up, but i won't say never again.....
Moast canals are about 3 ft deep
I would put it at around 7' in the middle, bearing in mind water is always deeper than it looks due to refraction. There needs to be plenty of clearance between the bottom and the keel of the boats to prevent scouring as they pass.
Let me reassure you good people that the national treasure known as SFB was never in any danger.
huh, you're ruining my reputation for recklessness 🙁
FYI the canal at Lancaster that you were stood on IS 3ft deep - I've seen drunken fools jump into it during summer to cool off and walk around in it, it's waist deep across it's whole width.
Remember riding along the bottom of that drained canal on that night ride we did years ago? Up by Carnforth somewhere. That was a bit deeper - about 5-6ft IIRC.
7' would be an absolute max on the Union - they probably only need that around Broxburn and Falkirk to clear the supermarket trolleys 😉 Elsewhere it's mostly 4 to 5' deep.
It would be fairly difficult to drown in that depth. Open water / rivers a completely different ball game of course
FYI the canal at Lancaster that you were stood on IS 3ft deep
well, it's 2' at the edge as I know from standing in it, but I'll test your theory in the summer 🙂
Remember riding along the bottom of that drained canal on that night ride we did years ago? Up by Carnforth somewhere. That was a bit deeper - about 5-6ft IIRC.
vividly 🙂 That was a buzz! It was at Mount Pleasant.
that's already been posted several times 🙂
FYI the canal at Lancaster that you were stood on IS 3ft deep - I've seen drunken fools jump into it during summer to cool off and walk around in it, it's waist deep across it's whole width.
I hacked a hole in the middle with a screwdriver (about 2") and pushed a stick down, and it's about 5', just level with my shoulders :o) Perhaps it's shallower by the pub, or the revellers were as tall as you James ?
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but not much sign of melting yet:
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