[Closed] canal ride

Ton, a cock's useful.......

thanks for clarifying the situation [b]ton[/b], I guess at least a cock has testicles 🙂

It strikes me that the problem is that people have forgotten how to assess risk for themselves, so instead just do what they are told.

I would have thought mountain bikers would be fairly immune from this but obviously not.

thanks for clarifying the situation ton, I guess at least a cock has testicles

yes but given the thread it should have been at least a Cock has balls -missed opportuniy IMHO

Johnnie in my lexicon testicles = balls 🙂

grumm - Member

It strikes me that the problem is that people have forgotten how to assess risk for themselves, so instead just do what they are told.

I would have thought mountain bikers would be fairly immune from this but obviously not.

come on Grumm - you have been on here a while.

Nowt but a bunch of namby pamby risk averse keyboard warriers on here. I have never heard so much " the sky is going to fall in if you do that" as you get on here.

No idea about risk assessment or indeed any rational way of looking at risk at all

I see on the news another fatality from falling through the ice on a river.

Risk assessment is one fine, if you are able to do such a thing.

Look at that image again, open water under the bridge. In the canal here it's less predictable than the actually local weather forecasting & snow fall and I for one don't quite understand why some is of our canal is frozen solid and other parts, not far away, are open water.

That doesn't make me a wuz, far from it, riding solo it makes me wary and informed, but still unsure why some sections are clearly thick ice and some are open water. Somewhere in between it's treacherous to mountain bikers.

would you put your hand in a lions cage.........no
would you pit a metal object in a electric socket.........no
would you walk on a railway line..........no
would you jaywalk on a motorway............no

in all the above you might NOT get killed.............
see what i did there simon.
your actions are stupid, your reasons are stupid..............therefore you are a stupid cock............ 8)

your actions are stupid, your reasons are stupid..............therefore you are a stupid cock.

but I'm the one having the fun, so I care not 🙂

would you put your hand in a lions cage.........no
would you pit a metal object in a electric socket.........no
would you walk on a railway line..........no
would you jaywalk on a motorway............no

in all the above you might NOT get killed.............
see what i did there simon.
your actions are stupid, your reasons are stupid..............therefore you are a stupid cock............

but I'm the one having the fun, so I care not

very grown up.......... 🙄

Gotta die of something. Dying old in a cancer ward scares the shit out of me.

your dad died falling thru the ice on a frozen lake

my kids are grown up, and I'm sure they'd rather I had fun than stayed safe and dull!

before i start i must say that as a [u]kid[/u] we did ride across the local dam when it was frozen - but i was a kid and as kids we did stupid things.
it's not that [u]you[/u] might fall through the ice or that [u]you[/u]are having fun
it's the fact if [u]you[/u]do fall through the ice and can't get out someone else has got to come in and retrieve you (and as for your 'i didn't ask them to rescue me' no you didn't but the emergency services don't know that or worsestill the bloke walking his dog who see's it happen and ends up getting himself in to difficulties coming after you.

.. and why the attraction ? even if it's strong enough to support you , it's a dead flat, dead even surface thats a bit slippy

Mr Barnes - you sir are a pr##k

It's no different to people going skating on it FFS!
I remember years ago in a similarly bad winter watching loads of people ice skating on the frozen canals and waterways of Lincolnshire (my Grandad lived there and he used to tell stories of doing the same thing in his youth).

I rode a short section of the frozen canal near Marple on the way home from work on Friday. Not to show off (there was no-one else around), just because I could. I could see footprints on the snow-covered ice so it was a calculated risk and I probably won't get the chance to do it for another 10 years!

it's the fact if youdo fall through the ice and can't get out someone else has got to come in and retrieve you (and as for your 'i didn't ask them to rescue me' no you didn't but the emergency services don't know that or worsestill the bloke walking his dog who see's it happen and ends up getting himself in to difficulties coming after you.

I just can't see it as being anyone else's business at all and the emergency services are paid and trained to do things safely. If anyone else tries to intervene it's their choice - I wouldn't as I'm scared of water. Besides, I didn't fall through, having checked both times that it was rock solid, and I resisted riding right across the tarn because I couldn't tell how strong it was nearer the middle and was too lazy to work my way across jumping on it till I found a creaky bit.

Crazy-legs, you don't exactly weigh too much. However had I seen you, 'cos I know where you rode, you'd have got a good telling off.

'cos I know where you rode, you'd have got a good telling off.

and a spanking ??

Why are a bunch of people who [s]pootle round trail centres[/s] hurl themselves down mountains criticising someone for doing something risky ?His risk surely?

cos he is a clever selfish self rightous(sp?) cock......... 8)

Guys, guys, guys. C'mon give the guy a break. Let him ride across as much frozen water as he wants to.
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Eagerly awaits sudden thaw...

i rode across a frozen puddle - theice broke my front wheel dropped through, the bike stopped, i went over the bars. then my mate picked the bike up and smashed the bars into my nuts!

so be careful out there kids.

fair point Ton

cos he is a clever selfish self rightous(sp?) cock.

self-righteous: confident of one's own righteousness, esp. when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others.

wouldn't that be you lot ??

You lot need to get real - there is abosolutly nothing wrong with what SFB has done here.

I have never heard such a shower of sad ****s in all my life. You ereally need to get a life

there have been thousands of people on the ice of the lake of menteith.

So, what's so fun and exciting about going on the ice then?

I settled for a dash around the garden in my underpants. Most energising, and totally safe!

SB

fine in [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8451006.stm ]amsterdam[/url]

Surely we should all be encouraging him to do more walking on ice? 😉

I always chuckle when sfb posts a pic of himself wearing shorts in cold weather, he may say he's not cold but the look on his face suggests otherwise

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I doubt SFB was cold, I have it on good authority that he has a battery powered merkin beneath those "ice blue" speedos. And whats more, it should be noted that he is wearing the appropriate attire should he need to swim unlike the cyclists I've seen flaunting themselves across great expanses wearing water filled rucksacks that would no doubt kill them should they plummet to a watery grave!

Can't believe folks getting so wound up over this, good on you Mr Barnes not something I'd choose to do personally as I am too much of a big girls blouse but I see no reason why you can't cycle on ice if you want to do that.

Nanny state gone mad! Oh and for the record I cleared the snow & ice from infront of my factory too even though Health and Safety bods recommend I didn't in case some daft bugger sues me *sigh*

So, what's so fun and exciting about going on the ice then?

I've always found deep water very scary, so being able to walk or ride over it like that is great fun, though I can't really say why, enough anyway to justify the risk (if any)

he may say he's not cold but the look on his face suggests otherwise

the slightly pained expression will be my camera face 🙂

I'm surprised to be introduced to the concept of "collateral risk" on this forum. It seems to be the consensus that one cannot justify taking a risk, no matter how thoroughly assessed, if an unknown (imaginary) 3rd party might feel themselves compelled to intervene if things went wrong, despite them being presented with unequivocal evidence of immediate danger...

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hilarious, and I'm flattered that anyone would go to such lengths :o)
Though I'm surprised takisawa2 didn't take the opportunity to replace the "TR" with "F"!

I have it on good authority that he has a battery powered merkin

actually I'm just hot blooded 🙂

it's not looking so inviting now 🙁
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ll have to to buy a boat.(and a lifejacket,emergency beacon,flares..)

shall have to try and find pictures of the tyre tracks across some of the ponds on one of our commons

did I mention they were car tyre tracks?

did I mention they were car tyre tracks?

Not surprising - some folks stupidity is beyond belief: 🙄

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8454242.stm ]Two held after frozen canal drive[/url]

Ha! Ha!, If only those two fudds in that BBC story had read this thread, I did warn them!.
Still. They're probably in the top two percent of Winchburgh folk IQ wise
Sorry Winchies! 😀

I wonder why it is that ice is singled out as so uniquely dangerous compared to other things like riding bikes down rocky trails or crossing the road ? I suppose it might be something to do with lack of experience as it's such a fleeting condition we don't have the time to develop much knowledge about it ?

two men have been charged with [b]reckless conduct[/b]

doesn't that rather describe what we do every time we go riding ? It often applies to me with my meagre abilities.

"A police spokesman said: "While it goes without saying that the vast majority of people have the good sense not to take their vehicles (read: bikes) on to frozen waterways, this incident serves as an example of the type of stupidity that the emergency services occasionally have to deal with.""

this incident serves as an example of the type of stupidity that the emergency services occasionally have to deal with.

your 'stupidity' is my sense of fun :o)

Simon.
That is the policeman's comments, not mine.
Probably reflecting his general weariness at the general public's stupidity this winter.
He's probably dealt with so many fools and idiots over the Xmas break, both with and without alcohol, he's given up wondering what dim-witted antics will occur next that he'll be called out to & then possibly have to call 'round to some unsuspecting mother / wife / family to deliver the bad news.
"I'm sorry, your son / husband / father drowned whilst driving a stolen car / riding a bike on & then in the canal". "Please excuse me now, as I have a real job to do, chasing & locking up criminals, not clearing up after ex-jokers in canals".

That is the policeman's comments, not mine.

I did know that 🙂

"Please excuse me now, as I have a real job to do, chasing & locking up criminals, not clearing up after ex-jokers in canals".

that's only part of their remit...

MY grandparents got weary of me going out biking in Tshirt and shorts in winter, it doesn't mean they were right to worry or that their suggestions that I was insane, and bound to catch my death, founded.

Me falling into the water is stupidity on my part, but any one else seeing me do it may do the same,

Anyone seeing you do it and falling in themselves has their own stupidity to blame, not yours. You doing something makes you in no way responsible for someone elses actions, unless they ask you if it is safe to do and you say "yes, I personally guarantee your safety" without any warnings.