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I'm looking to get out riding more and being so busy may only be able to squeeze in brief solo rides. In groups it's ok if there's dogs about but on your own you're more exposed to them. I don't care what anyone says, an animal will do whatever it feels like and if that's attacking you then that's what it will do.
I'm like Newman from Seinfeld on this, "they don't belong among us."
Anyone tried any sonic devices? Maplin have one, reviews are mixed.
If your getting attacked by a dog your in the sh1t. Big stick or a punch on the nose but avoiding the confrontation is the best way. If you have time dismount and shield yourself with your bike. Any dog repellent could cause harm or distress to a dog and I would not advocate them in general use ie in public as it may affect perfectly harmless animals.
If you see a dog on or off the lead slow down as you pass, you may alarm it. If your nervous the dog can become nervous as well by not understanding your intentions. Be confident around them I know if you are nervous of dogs thats easier said than done.
Agree 100% that a dog should not approach you etc etc. I am a dog owner and walk my dogs on canal and toepaths frequented by riders so they are used to them. I also keep an eye out and recall my dogs to close control when riders are about or passing, unfortunately I don't always hear them so have to rely on my dogs training. Many riders slow to pass some don't. Also as a rider I see both sides. Typically we are sharing the same space so we have to get along.
Unfortunately many dog owners think they have a right and their dogs have a right to wander where they like and cause disruption. We are not all the same, not all of us are idiots. I must admit its a long time since I have been chased by a dog, except when I ride with my own.
Smell like a vet? surely they'll leave you alone then.. If you're unsure around dogs, they'll pick up on it and will become unsure around you. Generally it's confidence but I'm terrified of spiders and now live in Aus (top move that) coming into contact with the things we don't like is going to happen and as posted above we have to share the same space. I was stopped in my tracks last weekend during a bush walk when I spotted an Orb Weaver happily sitting in it's web JUST above my head! Took a dose of man up and walked under the web (like everyone else did) an enjoyed the rest of my day until I had to do it again on the way back!
You're worried about riding on your own due to dogs??
Where do you live that they're such a problem, I ride on my own in many different places and when I do come across a dog they tend to keep themselves themselves
I think this is more about the issues the OP has than the packs of feral dogs roaming his neighbourhood.
OP, do you have a dog phobia, because you are really worrying about nothing.
Chances of getting attacked by a dog are very, very slim, though of course it can happen. However, you are on a bike and thus have a convienient means of escape....
If I ever get chased by a dog I stop and pat it's head. I've never encountered a dog agressive enough that I felt threatened. If I did I would ride faster until it got bored.
i bought some dog repellant from germany, i'n reality its pepper spray so getting caught carrying in the street is very naughty.
pop a cat / kitten in your pocket !! Dogs are terrified of them ! Alt just slow down and talk calmly to the dogs that are barking at you .They are only scared of what is to them a weird scarey animal type thing that needs to be attacked !!Once they realize your human they will calm down.
I often pass horse riders who ask me to talk / say something as they approach so their horse doesnt freak out .Same rules apply to dogs .
Pepper spray is good, I find if you spray it in the owners face before he really gets a good look at you, its fine. Then you are free to abuse his/her dogs as you wish.
my riding gloves?
A well-directed squirt from a bottle usually befuddles yappy dogs and shuts them up. The best thing is to let them and their owners know you're coming and most owners will get their dog on a leash if they are likely to cause you any grief.
To be honest, if that's how you feel then no wonder you have a problem with dogs cos they will quickly pick up on your fear.
If you're referring to farm dogs then, yes, they can be pretty intimidating even when chained up.
I think this is more about the issues the OP has than the packs of feral dogs roaming his neighbourhood
I'd come up with my own reply but these sum it up adequately. I've grown up on farms arround dogs so don't have any issues with them and unless you're riding arround council estates full of pitbull crosses (crossed with another pitbull mostly) in pink collars called bruiser then anyone with a remotely dangerous dog wil have it on the lead, even if it runs upto you barking it's head off and jumping up it's far more liely to want to play than rip your head off* and patting it on the head or talking to it clamly is far more likely to quieten it down than the usual STW response of punch it in the nose (which is probably just going to leave you with an angrier dog and an angry owner!).Chances of getting attacked by a dog are very, very slim, though of course it can happen. However, you are on a bike and thus have a convienient means of escape....
If I ever get chased by a dog I stop and pat it's head. I've never encountered a dog agressive enough that I felt threatened. If I did I would ride faster until it got bored.
On the OP's original point, dog's hate mint, they can't stand the stuff, so maybe try original source shower gell? It's the only stuff that my parent's dog wont imediately tryan lick off your legs after you've been in the shower. Or dab peppermint oil on your gloves? No idea if it would work but it's far less agressive than some sugestions!
*think of it as the doggy equivelant of a kid at the BMX track saying "giz a go on yer bike mister", 99% of them just want to play, the other 1% will slit your throat with a penknife and nick your bike. But you wouldn't respond to them by punching them in the face!
I'm not sure where these dog threads come from. I've never had any real problems with dogs, passing them on a daily basis. You'll get the odd excitable one. Even the occasional aggressive dog. But there's far more aggressive and dangerous people out there, I find.
Didn't used to have any issues with dogs until I did the WHW last month and got bitten by a dog that was being walked by professional "dog walkers". Ran up to me as if to say hi and took a chunk. Over the next 50 miles or so three more dogs with their owners saying "he won't touch you" had a go or chased me. All dogs should be on a lead in public without exception, if an owner says they know their dog and they won't touch you they are lying because quite simply unless they know how to speak dog they don't know what its going to do.
is there a velodrome near you? they don't allow animals near the track so you can ride dog free.
Hardly, a lot of dogs are a nuisance and owners refuse to muzzle them, last dog that had a go at me I simply picked my shop bike up and slammed it down on top of it.
Interesting how much force I could generate, reckon if i did it full force and aimed the crank / pedal at the dog I could do serious damage.
Response should however be relative to circumstance, if the dog is going all out then so should you be, always best to be prepared and have the appropriate response practiced and ready to implement.
All dogs should be muzzled!
I sometimes feel the same about the Scotts.All dogs should be muzzled!
You soppy ****s !! Theyre only dogs !! MTFU your about 10 times the size of most of them .Best you lot just stay in doors with mummy incase any nastey wastey doggy woggies barky warky at diddums on his pweciouse bikey wikey !! 🙄
I simply picked my shop bike up and slammed it down on top of it. Interesting how much force I could generate, reckon if i did it full force and aimed the crank / pedal at the dog I could do serious damage.
? will that line be beaten today, I wonder ? 😕
it think the OP might need to speak to his GP, as it sounds like he might have some serious anxiety issues.
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last dog that had a go at me I simply picked my shop bike up and slammed it down on top of it
🙄 sounds like a sure fire way to get bitten to me, as a dog is a hell of a lot faster than most people.
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Usual nonsense being spoken by delusional people, dogs are attacking riders and they carry all sorts of shit in their saliva.
If you want to have a little calming chat with the dog or lie down a play dead that's fine by me, if a dog attacks me I will be using what ever force I decide is required, including killing the dog if it comes to that.
I am not a snack!
I'm increasingly finding that there are too many bad dog owners - people are just too darn lazy to train their dog and said training has to be continually reinforced throughout a dog's life.
It's irresponsible to be 'in control' of a dog when half your time is spent yapping on your mobile and/or with headphones stuck in your ears.
Dogs don't bother me, perhaps they realise I'm a miserable cah. 🙄
[url= http://www.wkyc.com/news/regional/article/237128/6/Akron--Cyclist-attacks-womans-service-dog?fb_xd_fragment ]Hey look, i can use google to find an example to suppourt my point of view too, wowo!!!! Cyclist attacks dog[/url]
I'm a dog lover & owner, I never had a problem with them out on the trails. Until one little dog off the lead (the owner couldn't control) took a bite out of my calf (a horrible deep puncture bite).
I'm now scared of all dogs off lead.
Usual nonsense being spoken by delusional people
Oh, the ironing!! 😆
Several comments here that are wrong wrong wrong. But I understand where they come from.
kaesae - fair play if you were being attacked I would do the same and glad you say the response should be relative to the circumstance. If it was my dog I would probably do the same.
Brake neck - why should all dogs be on a lead. Most public places have that requirement and if its a busy area I agree. Many "professional" dog walkers are people without experience trying to make a few quid with animals they are not familiar with. Theres a massive difference between that and an owners relationship with the animal. As for talking dog, yes you do, as you need to develope the skill to understand you dog and the situations adn its reactions.
Yes they do perceive threats, bikes to a dog are unusual, generally, move quickly and are noisy. If its not familiar with them it may perceive it as a threat and respond. All that said the owners have a responsibility to socialise their dog properly to limit those fear responses. This makes it much easier for th owner to understand their dogs behaviours in unusual situations.
For that reason and I have said this alot on here, its the owner not the dog. Most dont adequately expose their dogs to different situations, people, oyther animals. They sit in watching telly, dogs locked up for hours, walked for 15 mins. Never meet a cyclist, horse, wheelchair etc so respoond as if scared.
Most owners should be muzzled in my opinion, lets NOT blame the dog but the owners.
Furthermore, I have no problem in kicking a dog if it refuses to get away from my wheels. Done it before and would do it again.
I kicked my neighbour's dog once.
(It was chasing me at the time)
a mans best friend. 8)
never put mine on the lead. never clear up shit. let him lick small children.
🙄 at those video's
That 2nd video Kaesae posted is hilarious!!
And the third one is posted by fristclassdogtraining.com!
[edited]What are you on?!
Our dog is repelled by Ardent Grange dog food, if you fill your socks with it you should be safe.
DezB the point of the videos is to educate people/riders some very good tips in the third video, you might have noticed that fact if you weren't too busy being a MADam 😉
Usual idiocy from the dumb, dumb's, the point of this thread is to suggest a good dog repellent to the OP, not for you bunch of keyboard Rambo wannabe's to try out your latest virtual handbag swings!
🙄 🙄 🙄 ..... @ kaesae
He's a laugh, thats for sure 😆
Usual idiocy from the dumb, dumb's, the point of this thread is to suggest a good dog repellent to the OP
I see, what have you suggested to help him out?
just before I got bit the owner ensured me his dog was soft and I would be ok - the dog then went mad and would not listen to its owners commands.
I think dogs should be on leads in public.
You soppy ****s !! Theyre only dogs !! MTFU your about 10 times the size of most of them .Best you lot just stay in doors with mummy incase any nastey wastey doggy woggies barky warky at diddums on his pweciouse bikey wikey !!
I you look at what the likes of a mastiff can do to someone you wouldn't be spouting sh*t like that. Grow up if you want to contribute to an adult forum
1st 2nd and 3rd Videos do not show dogs attacking, badly trained dogs yes, irresponsible owners? yes, but attacking? No.
But they were behaving in a way which suggests poor training from the owners.
Mine comes trail building with me, and likes to snuffle the odd especially funky smelling rider. Kick my dog and expect the same from me in return.
Usual nonsense being spoken by delusional people, dogs are attacking riders and they carry all sorts of shit in their saliva.
A dog running after you, and even jumping up at you isn't an attack. 99 times out of 100 it's a dog wanting to play. Yes, they can be intimidating, but so can you as you whizz past dogs and pedestrians.
Mutt Owner: STOP RIDING THAT BIKE NOW!
Cyclist: WTF!
Mutt Owner: MY DOG DOES NOT LIKE BIKES AND WILL ATTACK IF PROVOKED!
Cyclist: Have you gone mad? just get it under control.
Mutt Owner: MY DOG DOES NOT LIKE THE LIMITATIONS PLACED ON IT WHILST WEARING A LEAD, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEAR A LEAD?
Cyclist: well that answers the have you gone mad question, look just **** OFF! I've had enough of this.
Mutt Owner: LAST CHANCE CYCLIST, STOP RIDING THAT BIKE RIGHT NOW AND WAIT UNTIL WE PASS, WHY ARE YOU BEING SO UNREASONABLE.
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The out-laws have just aquired a doberman-alsatian cross, if ever there was evidence that it's the owner thats aggressive not the dog this is it, dobermans were bread as guard dogs, alsatians to protect sheep from wolves, this thing just tries to lick your face off!
Mine comes trail building with me, and likes to snuffle the odd especially funky smelling rider. Kick my dog and expect the same from me in return.
if your dog bit me I'd do more than kick it, I would happily see it was taken away & put down 😉
if your dog bit me I'd do more than kick it, I would happily see it was taken away & put down
Fair enough, but that's not what the poster said, he said that if you kicked his dog for sniffing you then expect to be kicked back.
TBH if you kicked my dog for being near you/running past. You had better be prepared to kick me as well, as I have little tolerance for bullies and people who like to abuse animals for their own perverse enjoyment.
This has only happened once in the entire time when I have owned a dog, and the bloke (in his mid thirties) who thought it funny to kick my dog as it ran past (he has to run/jump forward to get it) didn't find it quite as much fun when I asked what exactly he thought he was doing, even his missus was embarrassed for him.
Sniffing's cool, Your dog could sniff my balls if he wanted too (hey I even have some sticky jam) 😉
no biting though 😈
if your dog bit me I'd do more than kick it, I would happily see it was taken away & put down
[trolling]I'n the interests of fairness, if you've ever caused an animal an injury whilst riding can we take you out an burry you in the woods [/trolling]
op try a moustache 😐
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56 Dogs. Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders.
Sniffing's cool, Your dog could sniff my balls if he wanted too
If you've been on a long ride he'd probably quite like that. He triesd to bury himself in my sweaty funk when i get back from a ride, then licks the inside of my helmet... 😯
lets face it dogs have some disgusting habits! 😯
highway code - ha ha ha 🙄
not sure it applies in the woods!
We can all find videos and pictures of dogs chasing cyclists, or the results of dog attcks.
I know why not all of us stay in and never go out incase of random shootings, attcks from people etc.
I think a moderate sense of reality needs to be restored.
Video 1 - dog owners a cock.
Video 2 - dog owners a cock
Video 3 - dog training.com, whatever thats not training. The dog at that age should be trained so if its been trained to do that, F*** me dont use dogtarining.com
Video 4 - Dogs doing a grand job defending its territory against 5 intruders! Dont have all the facts but probably not thought through well by dibble and probably not the most responsible dog owner either.
Pictures cool anymore, lets just have a dog attack thread. Were they cyclists, are they dog attacks or just pictures.
As for being 10 times the size of a dog, there are many dogs as big as people.
Did anyone else notice that the videos also showed a specific breed type of dog, also largely associated with a certain type of dog owner. Now I am not saying that all owners of "bull" type breeds are the same but there was a common thread.
Recorded statistics show a rise in dog bites but those statistics are challenged by improved reporting and largely believed to be pretty static over the last several years. The number of dog bites or related dog injuries is around 5000 per year. Of those it does not say how many were attack, which again is a very different story.
Unfortunately sad events occur and stupid owners will always exist but I think you are less likely to be attacked by a dog than you are to actually injure yourself on your bike.
Bad dog breeding is also a massive factor, there is apparently a problem strain of golden retreiver which was bred from in the 90s (any goldie owner will find this as mind boggling as i do, but i'm reliably informed its true).
We used to keep Maremmas. MASSIVE dogs, they live with the sheep on the italian mountains, great with kids, wonderful temprament, but pity the fool who tries to break into the house where one of these lives... Not the dogs fault, what it was bred for.
Mine apparently was bred to ensure an even distrubution of socks around a house.
It's just ignorant owners that cause problems, I've got a Boxer and a Boxer/Shepard cross that go just about everywhere with me, they've never caused a problem anywhere.
Dog repellent...
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...I carry one of these in my hydration pack.
Can anyone recommend a dog repellant?
I just tell 'em I'm gay.
I notice the OP has disappeared.
Far be it from me to give a sensible answer to an otherwise ludicrous and at times offensive set of replies, but this should work:
http://www.petsathome.com/shop/pet-corrector-spray-50ml-by-the-company-of-animals-14415
Just a harmless little can that scares most dogs. But clearly the best way to deal with unwanted dogs is to learn from an experienced dog handler.
And why would anyone indiscriminately kick a dog? Are you mental? While you're at it, why not shove a pram over or steal an old person's zimmer frame?
Bite-back.net
Legal,uses a mist of peppermint and cloves very effective and harmless to humans.
you need to be careful carrying knifes around...you could puncher your bladder and lose all your water.
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ntreid - MemberI notice the OP has disappeared.
Far be it from me to give a sensible answer to an otherwise ludicrous and at times offensive set of replies, but this should work:
http://www.petsathome.com/shop/pet-corrector-spray-50ml-by-the-company-of-animals-14415
Thank you. Yes, some crazy replies here.
I actually did a little search just now and this seems to get good reviews http://www.primrose.co.uk/advanced-portable-sonic-dog-repeller-p-1271.html
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****in 'eck there's some real old women on here...
My view is that all dogs should be on leads in public spaces. If I had a £ for every dog that has jumped up leaving muddy paw marks, slobber etc I'd be rich. I personally hate it and our young kids get quite frightened by it. Saying 'It's ok he/she's friendly' doesn't cut it frankly.
I also see no reason for anyone to own any fighting breed of dog and would ban ownership of them. As much as like Staffies, I would include them as they blur the identification of pit bulls.
At the end of the day, why does anyone need to own a Tosa, bull terrier, mastiff derived dog? I would also add Rotweillers to that list except as licensed working dogs.
Other breeds attack too but as a rule the fighting breeds are generally too powerful for a person to fight off or remove from a victim.
My view is that all dogs should be on leads in public spaces.
That's nice, luckily we live in a democracy and the vast majority of the population don't agree with you.
I am sure if you polled enough people, you could find people with equally extreme views on gays, immigrants, capital punishment etc.
Other breeds attack too but as a rule the fighting breeds are generally too powerful for a person to fight off or remove from a victim.
I think you will find that most large to medium dogs, would be very difficult to fight off if they decided to attack you, as they are quicker, tougher and have bites that can penetrate sheet steel. Mind you for 99.999999% of dogs you would only find this out if you attacked them and in they chose fight, rather than flight.
So it might be best if you don't go around randomly kicking them.
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That's nice, luckily we live in a democracy and the vast majority of the population don't agree with you.
You reckon?
I see nothing extreme about it. Smokers are no longer allowed to smoke in many public places as it impacts on others. Likewise dogs frightening kids intentionally or not, jumping up people, etc simply isn't fair on the 'majority of the population' and something simple like a lead would largely stop it.
I don't hate dogs - I've owned 2 myself. I do get irritated by the assumption of many dog owners that because they love their dog everyone else should too.
If I came up to you and wiped mud down your clothes but followed it with a cheery 'I'm only being friendly' how would you feel?
If I came up to you and wiped mud down your clothes but followed it with a cheery 'I'm only being friendly' how would you feel?
How about keeping kids on leads? I HATE it when they come over and put their sticky hands all over me.
Some nights I cry myself to sleep.
Likewise dogs frightening kids intentionally or not, jumping up people, etc simply isn't fair on the 'majority of the population' and something simple like a lead would largely stop it.
The more you treat something as if it is to be feared, then the more it will be feared.
I remember when I was a kid, dogs would be kicked out of the house in the morning along with the kids, and back in for tea. Everyone shared the streets and no one really seemed to care. Kids would get into the odd fight, and dogs would get into the odd fight, but all in all there were no horror stories aside from those imagined by ourselves, like the bear that lived in the woods behind our house 😳
These days I have to drive several miles away from home to give the dog a good run because the population have become intent that dogs are not worthy of sharing their space without being restrained. And yet I have to put up with their grumpy attitudes.
If I came up to you and wiped mud down your clothes but followed it with a cheery 'I'm only being friendly' how would you feel?
On one of his first walks, our dog went bounding up to a middle aged women dressed from head to toe in hiking gear. The dog was little more than 6 inches tall and easily a 10 on the cuteness scale. The woman was absolutely horrified that this innocent little thing dared put his dirty paws on her trousers, despite the fact she's walking through the forest, dressed for whatever the elements can throw at her - so long as it's not a cute little puppy. That said, I doubt she'd be any more of a pleasure to meet if we didn't have a dog.
My view is that all dogs should be on leads in public spaces.
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That's nice, luckily we live in a democracy and the vast majority of the population don't agree with you.
interesting statement seeing as dog fouling is usually in the top 5 most complained about things for local councils and PACT's
If someone stood for the council proposing to have all dogs to be kept on leads and muzzled in public spaces and to ban them from public recreational space (parks, playing fields etc) they would get my vote
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I think you will find that most large to medium dogs, would be very difficult to fight off if they decided to attack you, as they are quicker, tougher and have bites that can penetrate sheet steel. Mind you for 99.999999% of dogs you would only find this out if you attacked them and in they chose fight, rather than flight.So it might be best [s]if you don't go around randomly kicking them[/s] [b]if they are kept on leads and muzzled in public coupled with an effective licencing and chip system[/b]
FIFY
On one of his first walks, our dog went bounding up to a middle aged women dressed from head to toe in hiking gear. The dog was little more than 6 inches tall and easily a 10 on the cuteness scale. The woman was absolutely horrified that this innocent little thing dared put his dirty paws on her trousers, despite the fact she's walking through the forest, dressed for whatever the elements can throw at her - so long as it's not a cute little puppy.
I rest my case.
Dog owner thinks their dog is cute and everyone else should too - check
Dog poorly controlled - check
Dog annoys of member of public by covering them in mud - check
Dog owner simply cannot understand why anyone could be annoyed - check
I rest my case.Dog owner thinks their dog is cute and everyone else should too - check
Dog poorly controlled - check
Dog annoys of member of public by covering them in mud - check
Dog owner simply cannot understand why anyone could be annoyed - check
Uncontrolled? Get real. It's a harmless puppy, weeks old. A danger to no one. Hardly a menace to society.
Not to mention they don't come disciplined at birth. Where would you like us to train our dogs, bearing in mind that how they behave in the house is often vastly different to how they behave outside?
Personally I think anyone who can take exception to that should probably be kept on a leash themselves, preferably at a safe distance from myself. Because I'd rather not be inconvenienced by their snotty attitudes, quite frankly. Is that not fair?
I rest my case.
I'd encourage my dog to poop on your doorstep just for kicks.
You're completely missing the point.
I'm not saying a puppy jumping up is a menace or dangerous. I'm also not anti-dog (as a former dog owner myself), I am anti uncontrolled dogs and inconsiderate owners.
Thinking it's acceptable for a dog of any age to put it's muddy paws on someone suggests a total lack of basic manners. If you want to own a dog that's great but it should in no way inconvenience others.
Too many dog owners don't see it this way and their dog can do no wrong.
If you want to own a dog that's great but it should in no way inconvenience others.
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neninja - I am a dog owner and normally a little biased on these issues here. But in this case +1. Dogs that jump up (however cute) are a pain. There is no excuse, its bloody irritating even if you are wearing hiking kit. Dogs, yes puppies as well, should be trained not to do it. Its an owners responsibility among other things.
As you say its basic manners! Butcher, what on earth is that final para about??????
Prezet - what is the image meant to mean. Hardly refers to neninja. More like a mirror for ill-mannered dog owners?
Too many dog owners don't see it this way and their dog can do no wrong.
And to others a dog can do no right. It works both ways.
I go well out of my way so that our dog doesn't inconvenience others - he's quite an excitable little chappy and I understand not everyone shares his enthusiasm, which is fine. But I get tired of listening about 'uncontrolled' dogs, (often from dog owners too, because they're oh so responsible 100% of the day). It's becoming a stigma to let a dog have a run off the lead occasionally. And the alternative is no life for a dog.
Can see the arguments on both side. But please, less extremes and a little more love.