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Just done a track for the first time for a while (month), and going by the detritus on the trail I'm the first for a while.
It's 'only' a change to the end of the path, they've diverted the last 15 metres, as they've had a new house added to the land and the entrance is just where the end of the bridleway is. So they've diverted the bridleway to end in a position about 4 metres away, they've not blocked the bridleway in anyway, just diverted the end of it.
I cycle up there reasonably regularly and would have noticed any 'notification' of a change, but there hasn't been any that I've seen - though would there have needed to be anything like that?
As I assume you can apply to some-one to make changes like this legally.
Now is it worth making any sort of fuss about it? (who to?)
I'm not up to agrivating a land owner for the sake of it, but if they make one change and get away with it, they might be encouraged to make others that would affect riding/cycling through there.
Now is it worth making any sort of fuss about it?
diverted the bridleway to end in a position about 4 metres away
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Does it affect your enjoyment of the route at all? Has it made access any harder? Or has it just moved the end of the trail 4m?
It didn't take long did it. The salient point completely missed again.
Clearly the point being made or question asked is the lack of notification that a change was being applied for or made and the author has concerns that this could happen again to a much larger degree.
I'd worry when the owner of the new house get pedantically pissed off with people using the RoW, and tries to get it closed down.
Just moved it, it's no bigge BUT it whether the land owner see's this as a precedent to make other changes that could affect our access to it...
Missingfront....'s comment hits the nail on the head, I'm just wondering if this should be dealt with now, rather than wait for the situation to deteriate
Drop a line to your local ROW officer. even for "just" 4 metres, the landowners should have applied for a change
Without notifying the landowner, just call up the council and check to see if there has been any applicaitons submitted for such a change.
Do it on a no-names basis, and no-one's hurt.
If the council then take t up with the landowner, then that's their lookout. If anyone confronts you, deny all knowledge and tell them you're not bothered so long as you can still use the RoW.
Yeah, who the **** do they think they are? 4metres!! - i'd go straight to the police for a crime like that.
LHS - Member
Yeah, who the **** do they think they are? 4metres!! - i'd go straight to the police for a crime like that.
Just out of interest, did you read the other comments?
Yes.
LHS, are you just trolling?
As nbt says, contact your local ROW officer. It's up to them to review what's happened and decide if anything needs doing.
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Mr Woppit - MemberLHS - Member
Yeah, who the **** do they think they are? 4metres!! - i'd go straight to the police for a crime like that.Just out of interest, did you read the other comments?
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LHS - MemberYes.
But presumably you were unable to understand them?
No not trolling, I just think that someone moving a path (without blocking it or making it harder to use) by just 4m right at the end is not really worth getting worked up about, unless you have nothing else interesting in your life to be concerned with?
LHS - the point is that doing these types of things suggests that the landowner doesn't care about legal process and is likely to do other things which will increasingly affect others use and enjoyment of those rights of way.
Legally I believe that the right of way will continue where it was originally - so if its through the kitchen and lounge of the house that's where you go, as otherwise you'll be trespassing.
so the fact that it gives the land owner the false impression they can do what they like to a BW means nothing to you?
I have a throughly interesting life, part of it involves cycling, I do though have no interest in being stopped from cycling legally where I like - I believe this is what is happening here.
If you disagree, that fair enough, but suggesting I have no life because I'm interested in keeping legal routes open, is very sad.
It suggests you really don't care about your legal access to the land, do you really only ride trail centres?
I am sorry i hurt your feelings.
IMPO I think that getting worked up over a 4 metre diversion is just unnecessary worry on your behalf but each to their own especially when you don't know whether it is legal or not.
If they have moved it without permission maybe they have placed the entrance at odds to their planning consent?
If they have moved it without permission maybe they have placed the entrance at odds to their planning consent?
Yup, that happens quite a lot. Now if its a complete non-issue and the ROW has been diverted sensibly, its a complete non-issue and just needs entering onto the definative map. But the council do need to be notified.