while abuse on the internet isn't particularly nice, alluding to physical violence isn't much better and if no info is being passed on then how do they now know what he looks like?
how do they now know what he looks like?
Presumably by looking at his profile picture next to the horrible comments he made?
Just depresses me, Wonder who can find a modern "no dogs, no blacks no irish sign"??? Only a matter of time.
theres "no english allowed" signs on some shops in bradford.
Unfortunately no geo location on the EXIF data on the Renault scenic photo but it was taken on 15/07/15 on a GoPro hero.
theres "no english allowed" signs on some shops in bradford.
In the 20 ys I've lived in and around Bradford including Manningham i've never seen a sign saying that.
The idea of an STW lynch mob makes me laugh, he'd probably get battered to death with a 2000 quid artisan wood burner by people standing round sipping on shandies.
theres "no english allowed" signs on some shops in bradford.[i]In the years I've lived in and around Bradford including Manningham i've never seen a sign saying that.[/i]
Agree (substitute lived for worked). POIDH
Oh Tom, you're so funny and insightful....
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theres "no english allowed" signs on some shops in bradford.
I've not been to Bradford in a long time, so I cannot comment on this - however, I fail to understand how such a sign might possibly be any justification for the knuckle dragger's comments posted by the OP?
No there is not.theres "no english allowed" signs on some shops in bradford.
if no info is being passed on then how do they now know what he looks like?
i sent the picture of him in front of the renault to my mate (youtube page owner). he sent it onto the other lads
The idea of an STW lynch mob makes me laugh, he'd probably get battered to death with a 2000 quid artisan wood burner by people standing round sipping on shandies.
More likely lynched by an IT contractor with an old PS2 keyboard cable.
Is that not the service station on the A59 down from Gisburn? Has a McDonalds and Co-Op / filling station? Looked familiar? If so he will be one of the local idiots. Just keep an eye out.
100% yes, it's about half way between Clitheroe and Whalley off a roundabout near a fishery.
The bloke in the picture looks Asian to me.
More likely lynched by an IT contractor with an old PS2 keyboard cable.
Pffft! a PS2 keyboard cable would never take the weight of a fully grown racist. You'd want at least an RS232 Interface lead or ideally a serial printer cable.
UPDATE: thanks to the sleuthing of my fellow STW'ers here i had enough info to go on and have managed to track him down.
i now have his name and address details.
i also have his facebook/twitter/email/home telephone number too.
and yes its definitely him!
all this info will now be going to the police for them to deal with him
thanks for your help everyone!!
Frightening how today's social media incontinence makes us traceable, isn't it?
Recently I heard a Police officer talking about somebody the Police wanted to interview. He said: "Unfortunately he's not active on social media so he's proving rather difficult to trace".
Keep us posted.
It'd be good to hear how seriously the police take it.
btw this is was second hand info to myself so apologies if it is incorrect (it came from a reasonable source however)
Also it is in no way justification for anything. I was just stating that it seems we have already reached those depths which is pretty sad 🙁
It would be interesting to hear how this works out for the troll guy. Id like to see them actually doing something about this kind of thing tbh
alluding to physical violence isn't much better
which was the reason for my post.
Fox News?it came from a reasonable source however
i'll keep you posted on what happens next. i've told my mate that i've got the info for him. he's reporting it tomorrow as he's out helping another mate buy a new bike!!
Keep us posted on what the police actually do please.
Keep us posted on what the police actually do please.
will do
Some ninja skilz to get all those details!
Some ninja skilz to get all those details!
its what i do for a living...but TBH he made it pretty easy for me once you guys gave me the initial clues
its what i do for a living...
You are Colt Seavers and I claim my five pounds. 😀
I think this applies to Mr nasty -
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Abraham Lincoln
@gonzy, you trace people who don't want to be traced for a living?
As it happens, I'm trying to trace a landlord who absconded with my deposit...would you be amenable to being contacted offline re this?
Racism has no place in society, but neither does an angry hate mob of 30 people imho. Pass onto the police, call off the dogs, and move on thankful that you're not an ignorant racist like some.
Nah we should hope he gets raped in prison its what separates us from scum like him. 😕
I'm not condoning the obviously vile racist comments but it does just look like a needy troll who wants attention.
If something does come of your reports to the police it's probably a more worrying thing than if nothing at all did... In my opinion.
Cbmotorsport+1
Might be of interest Gonzy...
http://www.wigantoday.net/news/local/protester-faces-jail-over-online-race-hate-messages-1-7942544
And that's without specifically threatening an individual.
I was there on Sunday. It was perfectly silent and a totally stunning afternoon, to think of this kind of mentality being present in the same place soils it slightly.
If something does come of your reports to the police it's probably a more worrying thing than if nothing at all did... In my opinion.
strange opinion.
Racism has no place in society, but neither does an angry hate mob of 30 people imho. Pass onto the police, call off the dogs, and move on thankful that you're not an ignorant racist like some.
i agree totally with this. but in tracking down this guy its clear that he is a regular at Gisburn, Llandegla and Lee Quarry...all places where me and my friends ride regularly. on viewing his youtube videos it seems he rides with a group of equally pleasant friends and now that he knows there is a group of riders who frequent those places who are of asian heritage, he and his group may be on the lookout for trouble...i would rather avoid this so he is being reported to the police.
as his abuse was aimed at the whole group it is only right that they are angry ...but while they would rather deal with him themselves, they would much rather the police deal with him...but they're not going to go out of their way to go and do him over...he isnt worth the energy to be honest.
Nah we should hope he gets raped in prison its what separates us from scum like him.
lol
@PJM1794 - email in profile and i'll give you a response
If something does come of your reports to the police it's probably a more worrying thing than if nothing at all did... In my opinion.strange opinion.
i agree very strange opinion...would it be more acceptable to inform the police of racist abuse only for them to say "suck it up princess and move on"?
thanks Chakaping
"Racism has no place in society, but neither does an angry hate mob of 30 people imho."
There's a common philosophy about not resorting to violence, but sadly, passive, non-violent, peaceful opposition doesn't seem to have any real effect on knuckle-dragging racist scum. ****s like the BNP, EDL etc aren't put off from holding their hate rallies by a small group of nice ladies with hand-knitted peace scarves, it takes an overwhelming number of people prepared to meet violence with violence, before they think twice. Unless the police can absolutely guarantee the safety of Gonzy's friends when out enjoying riding their bikes, then I'm afraid the only option is safety in numbers. And if it takes having to smack a few racists about a bit, in order to protect their right to ride their bikes where they want to, then so be it. Maybe if all of us were actually more vigilant of racism, and prepared to stand up to bigots wherever they are, they wouldn't feel so confident. Comments on here, such as the pathetic nonsense about 'no whites' in Bradford, just show the extent of the problem of tensions that exist.
Unless the police can absolutely guarantee the safety of Gonzy's friends when out enjoying riding their bikes, then I'm afraid the only option is safety in numbers. And if it takes having to smack a few racists about a bit..
So physical abuse to counteract racial abuse? Is one better or more acceptable than the other?
You are Colt Seavers and I claim my five pounds
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sorry Perchy...no fiver for you!! 😆
"So physical abuse to counteract racial abuse? Is one better or more acceptable than the other?"
Not 'physical abuse'. Physical [i]resistance[/i]/self defence against racist attacks, yes. Perfectly justifiable.
I've always been led to believe that fascists are fair game
Clodhopper for PM, I say.
i'm inclined to agree with what clodhopper said too...i've stood up against such hateful people in the past. ive been the victim of racism in the past. where i grew up my family and all the other asian families were regularly the target of such animals...bricks through windows, letterbox fires and abuse/threats of violence on the street...growing up the only way to tackle a problem the police were unable/reluctant/couldnt be bothered to deal with was simple...fight fire with fire...eventually the message sunk in that we were here to stay and that we wouldnt give in to them. after a few beatings they left our community alone...but that was between 20=30 years ago.
violence is not the answer to these animals but if push comes to shove and the police dont deal with it...then thats what will happen.
to be fair cbmotorsport...i dont advocate violence, but i wont condone or condemn it in this case as i think it would be deserved...especially as he has already threatened to stomp our heads into the mud if he sees any of us.
if he had just abused the group they wouldnt think anything of it, other than to report it and move on...but when he added the threat of physical violence...thats what has got them angry.
like i said i wouldnt waste my time or energy knocking the shit out of him...he isnt worth dirtying the bombers for...however some of the group are less inclined to feel that way should they find him out on the trails...and to be honest i wouldnt blame them.
I'd have no issue with defending oneself, or standing up to physical attacks, but so far this clown has posted foul comments on a video on the internet, not chucked a brick through your window or attacked anyone.
The suggestion was that physical violence might be a solution, it isn't. It maybe a last resort if it escalates beyond the security of his keyboard and you or your friends are physically attacked.
In my experience of idiots like this, they are a different animal when not sat behind the apparent security and anonymity of their computer screens.
Report it to the police, who will take it seriously, let them do their job.
Thank you gonzy, I'll message you over the weekend.
While I don't see how violence or the implied threat thereof fixes anything, I can totally understand how a bunch of folks are going to take ignorant racist trolling very seriously. No offense to any other OWGs out there, but I don't want the passtime I love to be the sole preserve of middle aged white guys who work in finance. It sickens me to think that people from different backgrounds might be frightened off enjoying the outdoors because of marauding knuckledragging scumbags - a friend of mine was out cycling with his seven year old daughter last year and some subhuman in a car decided to pull over and hurl racist abuse at both of them.
The poorly educated xenophobia seems to be getting worse of late, it's insidious in the media and partly thanks to a certain presidential candidate, it's being given a mainstream platform. I'm pleased that the overwhelming reaction to threads reporting racism on here is one of disgust and anger, there's hope for us all yet.
