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I’m preplanning a drunken purchase tonight of a Revive to replace my Reverb but need a bit of help.

I run Hope E4 brakes and would like to mount the Revive remote directly to my brakes, could anyone tell me which type of mount to go for? Also I can’t see any option for lever/button options. I’m hoping by default it comes with the lever option?

And is TF the best place to order from?

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Posted : 27/01/2018 4:02 pm
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I ordered mine straight from Bikeyoke, they were fantastic with it. Triggy is the lever option and I <think> is the default but not 100%, do check.

It's a SRAM-compatible remote so whatever will fit a SRAM shifter to your brakes will fit a Triggy. Though I'm not totally happy with the location of mine, the lever sits a little different to how a shifter would. Still, it's not bad at all, better than a bloomin reverb anyway


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 4:32 pm
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TF is the importer so yes its the best/easiest place. No the base post has no lever but when you buy from TF thats the second option on the configuration.

The standard remote comes with a clamp but is in essence MMX, so you could get an MMX clamp for your E4s to integrate them down the line. The other remotes as far as I know are the standard one but with adaptors to fit the various brakes. Your E4s are iSpec B compatible (sort of - you'd need the Hope / Shimano I spec A/B adaptor too - yes I know its complicated) so that would work too. My opinion - buy the standard one that will work then decide another day 😉


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 4:36 pm
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Eek!

Thanks. I’m 99% certain when I mounted my XT M8000 shifter to my E4/Tech 3s I bought the ispec ii shifter and the Hope ispec ii adapter.

If I ordered the ispec ii option Revive and another Hope adapter mount, would this work?

This is confusing enough before I’ve had a drink let alone after a few.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 4:48 pm
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No reason why not - the iSpec II option makes the remote just like a shifter would be, so if you're happy with the other side you'll end up with the same... BUT you're buying an MMX style remote AFAIK, then bolting an ISpec2 convertor to it, then bolting that to a converted lever. Its a bit of a 3 way bodge in my opinion. The MMX clamp for your hope lever would be a neater overall solution even if your bike OCD could suffer from having two clamp types.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 5:04 pm
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.. and also if the Hope clamp replaced any part of the shifter then it won't work anyway! I would say the best and safest option is an MMX convertor for your hopes and the standard lever.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 5:07 pm
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This is hurting my head, benpinnick when you sort yours please post a picture and some simple instructions I can follow 🙂


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 5:21 pm
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I’m glad I’m not the only one struggling.

So if I pick the MMX option, that will come as a trigger/paddle that will bolt to my E4/Tech 3 brake if I buy the MMX Hope adaptor? 🙃


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 5:51 pm
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I bought mine with the i-spec adaptor (using different brakes to you), but I actually found that I could get a position I was more happy with by using the standard bikeyoke clamp. It might mean I have two separate clamps on the bar, but the position is better for me.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 6:12 pm
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Cable clamps at the post end so loads of dropper remotes will be compatible.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 6:15 pm
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But, it's a great lever on it's own, so I would not contemplate using another brand myself


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 6:16 pm
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I know. ISpec works for me but I use shimano brakes so it’s dead simple.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 6:22 pm
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I have the Bikeyoke with triggy and tech E4s and use the ISPEC B it screws into the back of the brake made to measure. I found that there is no rotation available on that fitting compared to the standard separate clamp so not very open for fine tuning the position. I use this adapter because it is neat and well made and I have really long ergon grips so can’t fit the standard mount as there is not enough room. That said I got used to the position straight away but if you prefer more adjustability of position I suggest short grips and the standard separate mount.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 8:38 pm
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Thanks duir.

I did reply before with pictures but for some reason it bumped the thread up the page but didn’t post?

As Ben mentioned the remote on its own is SRAM so a Hope tech 3/SRAM adaptor should work?

But duir suggests an ispec b setup should work? I have my shifter mounted direct to the brake and know what you mean about lack of rotation but the shifter sits just right for me.

Will give TF a (sober) call on Monday to see what they suggest.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 10:19 pm
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Yes I use Bikeyoke’s own ISPEC B adapter I setup on the left side and it attaches straight into my Hope tech 3 E4 brake. My setup is 1 x 11 so it’s very neat.


 
Posted : 27/01/2018 10:43 pm
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Related question - how quick is the return on the Revive?  Or, can I set it to be really fast?  I like the Spesh Command Posts because they move up as quickly as you can lift yourself.  Not sure I want to wait for the post to catch up.


 
Posted : 28/01/2018 11:51 pm
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You can set the air pressure yourself. Certainly seems quite snappy at max pressure. Not the full nutblaster you get with some posts though.


 
Posted : 29/01/2018 7:42 am
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Been looking into this and also have E4 brakes.

Standard remote is Sram compatible but you can also get Ispec B and ispec II options so you have the following choices:

1a. Stick with the standard option and use the bar clamp bolted to the Sram style mounts

1b. Stick with the standard option and buy a left side Sram shifter adapter from Hope

2. Go for the isepc B and it will bolt straight to the E4 lever

3. go for the Ispec II and buy the left hand Hope ispec II adapter. You gail a little bit more adjustment over the ispec B route for the £11 the adapter costs.


 
Posted : 29/01/2018 12:36 pm
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Bike Yokes Revives have had a subtle mod that is supposed to make the reset even less than necessary, not sure if TF Tuned are still selling the older models (they were when I bought mine)


 
Posted : 29/01/2018 4:32 pm
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That’s great thanks Andy, much appreciated. Might go for the ispec ii option then to give a bit more adjustment. And it matches the other side!

weatheredwannabe, thanks for the heads up. Will ask the question, I did notice the new max posts came with something new but wrongly assumed it was marketing spiel.


 
Posted : 29/01/2018 6:11 pm
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ahh, don't click buy just yet.

Couldnt see any photos of the ispec II remote but the adapter is shown on the remotes bit and it appears to be an adapter that converts to the full ispec II mount that goes under the clamp.

<span style="font-size: 12.8px;"> https://www.bikeyoke.de/en/i-spec-ii-adapter.html</span>

It must be a custom bracket to mate directly up to the Sram mounting.

In which case I would just go for the Hope sram mount or the Bike Yolk ispec B mount.


 
Posted : 29/01/2018 6:16 pm
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Thanks again Andy.

For once I’m glad I didn’t go ahead with a drunken purchase, just spoke to Sacki himself who suggested the best route was the basic Bikeyoke clamp then purchase the Hope Tech 3/SRAM mount elsewhere.

All ordered now, off to set up the deckchair by the postbox.

P.s. If anyone is looking for a freshly serviced B1 Stealth 150mm 31.6mm Reverb let me know 😉


 
Posted : 30/01/2018 12:20 am
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That was my thinking regarding the clamps tbh. I need to get the sram adapter for my eagle shifter anyway and the pair seem easier to find than singles at the moment (Wiggle sent me the wrong one that is different to the photo). And you always have the bar clamp as well then just in case.

I don't get why their adapters are 19 euros each! I do find brake/shifter adapters a tad expensive from most companies. Irritating as you kind of need them to use their product!


 
Posted : 30/01/2018 8:28 am
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Did you get any info on who is selling the modified design, if indeed there is one?

Quite keen to pick up one of these for my Aeris as my position is 5mm too low for a 150mm reverb so the 160mm Revive should work.


 
Posted : 03/02/2018 10:03 pm
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All the posts TF have in stock are the newer moded version.

Hi Stu,

Yes all the current and new stock now has the latest internals and the mini lever.  185mm drop posts will be back in stock in Jan 2018.

Kind regards,

Ruth

Also the standard post comes with a stand alone clamp that just fit's on your bar on it's own.

No need for any adaptors.


 
Posted : 03/02/2018 10:12 pm
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I went for the Hope shifter mount to keep things looking clean.

Sacki did say that TFs stock would consist of only the newer version so you will be fine ordering through TF Andy, I’d already jumped in with both feet as usual and ordered direct


 
Posted : 04/02/2018 12:44 pm
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All done.

Smoother than a smooth thing smothered in smoothing cream.

Couple of pics for future reference.

Ispec ii XT M8000 shifter on a Hope Tech 3 lever using the Hope ispec ii shifter mount;

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Bikeyoke Triggy on a Hope Tech 3 lever using the Hope Sram shifter mount;

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Both levers end up at the same angle/distance etc from the grips.


 
Posted : 06/02/2018 7:48 am
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A few weeks on and I have a couple of problems with my Revive.

Firstly, every time the bike is washed I’m unable to lower the post. The thumb lever along with cable and actuation lever are free but something in the post sticks.

I’m also getting a small amount of sag irrespective of how many times I ‘revive’ the post. That’s not really an issue. The problem I have is the post sometimes tops out as I’m pedalling which creates a reallly really annoying knock which is amplified by the frame. Just compressing the post off the bike gives a similar noise.

Does anyone have any suggestions?


 
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The sag thing is normal read the blurb on the site, it will always have 1-2mm of sag...you wont feel it riding as such

But i know what you mean with the clunk/noise after being seated climbing etc, is a little annoying but the.post is so god damn smooth with no rotational play at all it really doesnt bother me that much


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 9:04 pm
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I've never noticed it sagging - except when it had lost some oil through the schrader valve, then it got springy. Topping it up got rid of the problem. Mines a mk1 though, might be different.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 9:13 pm
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I can’t feel the sag, but the knock drove me nuts until I realised what it was. My local loop starts with a three or four mile gradual climb which I spent most of staring at my crotch trying to work out what was happening.

It is smooth, but my bikes are always silent and the knock is driving me mad. If it carries on I’m going to have to try something else.

And then I still have the sticking issue.

I’m regretting selling my Reverb now


 
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Only dropper I've ever had to warranty. The replacement also didn't impress me.

First one worked great for a while, then all the oil came out through the valve. TF said something had come loose inside the post. They rebuilt it, rounded something off and killed it. I received a replacement, but that felt slower and "gritty" compared to my first one.

Best post I've ever had was the Magura Vyron. It was even the first one with the slight delay. Most consistent and reliable post I've had.

Only reason I sold it was because it was too big for my next frame.

I had a Command Post which was good for a few rides, then became slow. Couple of months old Reverb is slowing down now and is a pain in cold temperatures.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 9:50 pm
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Haven't seen the bit of the blurb which describes it sagging and then topping out with a klunk as 'normal'. Doesn't sound right to me. But if you've got a schrader valve remover handy, let the air out, take the valve out, put 5wt oil into it in 5ml increments see if that sorts it.

Sacki or TFT are usually pretty helpful.

EDIT: 3 weeks in though, I guess I wouldn't be tinkering, just considering whether to lob it back under warranty if it has two problems like that. Mine was pretty faultless until several months in.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 9:52 pm
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Interesting. My 185mm Revive has been fit and forget with zero play or issues. Maybe you just got a duff one?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 10:59 pm
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I mailed Bikeyoke directly but haven’t had a reply. Keep meaning to call TF but it’s just manic at work.

Cubs honour I’ll call them tomorrow, but I did order direct from Bikeyoke so will see what they suggest.

Luck of the draw duir, apart from the last Reverb I had (which was turned around by Sram in under a week), out of the 7 or 8 Revebs I had all had been nigh on perfect.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:24 pm
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FWIW neither of mine have this sag/knock


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:49 pm
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Yeah, my first one didn't have sag or knock but I did have to use the revive function about 4 times per ride. I think that was user error though (setting bike down with the saddle down).


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 8:46 am
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Spoke to TF today who were ace. It’s booked in for Tuesday and hopefully back Wednesday. Fingers crossed that’ll be it.

Bit disappointed with Bikeyokes lack of response.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 10:35 pm
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Need to replace the cable on mine, been freezing/sticking in the last couple of cold rides. Must be moisture in the cable housing somewhere, gears have been fine.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 10:40 pm
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Looking at these on the TFT site.

No problems with the post, just struggling understanding the various trigger options??


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 11:00 pm
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Standalone shifter - triggy shifter under the bar with it's own clamp. ispec 2/a - same under the bar bolted to your brake lever, no clamp of its own.

2-by remote - assumes you're running a 2x system with a lh shifter, so this one:


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 7:19 am
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Double post


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 7:29 am
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Cheers Martin, That's much clearer.

They should have you do the web listings for them 🙂


 
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