I’ve sent 2 GX cassettes back because they were bent - both replaced by SRAM.
I use my AXS GX with a Shimano 12 speed chain, cassette and Hope chainring and it all works very well.
In the last 12 months I have sent 2 off M8100 12 speed cassettes back to a mainstream UK bike shop due to bent cogs. One in proper Shimano packaging, one not. Replaced without quibble, but did surprise me.
Got too much money?
Like having to remember to charge batteries?
Want ridiculously slow but smooth shifting with no feel, control or feedback from your shifter and a poorly designed battery clip system where the tab can wear allowing it to fall out on the trail?
Eagle AXS is for you
Want the same complete lack of shifter feedback and smooth but incredibly. Even slower shifting. A badly implemented mech mounting system that can in certain circumstances be moved out of position reducing shifting accuracy or in extreme cases actually cause damage to certain frames?
T type AXS is for you.
🙂
Not on the SRAM AXS sales team then!
a poorly designed battery clip system where the tab can wear allowing it to fall out on the trail?
It did occur to me that this might be an issue at some point although I haven’t yet lost a battery. Admittedly I do gravel type stuff rather than jumps etc but I bought some battery cages as it looks as though these will mitigate the possibility of losing a battery due to a loose battery clip. 🤷🏽♂️
I’m not sure I notice it being any slower than the manual Shimano XT system I had previously so that’s not an issue for me. It’s the cost/quality I have the biggest gripe about. SRAM warranty is worth its weight in gold mind you.
I had a demo Fuel EXe for the weekend. I normally ride a slack HT, this was a full sus with AXS and a motor so there was a fair bit of stuff that I wasn't used to. I enjoyed the bike, but the one thing that made no impression at all on me was the electronic transmission. It was only when I returned the bike on Monday that I realised that I should have had an opinion on it but I had nothing at all - it was simply ok, not significantly better than the mechanical gears on my own bikes other than being new.
Admittedly I've been using axs exclusively for last 6 years (I only have 1 bike)...however, I don't recall getting any feedback from my cable shifting system. I pressed the shifter and the chain moved up/down the cassette...which is exactly how it works on the axs system. I press the shifter button and it moves.
The usual response about having to charge a battery - it needs done ever 4-6 weeks and is the same effort as plugging your phone in to charge (a daily occurrence for lots of people)...it is a non-issue.
It isn't cheap, that is the biggest drawback to the system. From my experience, it does appear to be durable and works consistently every single time with no adjustments needed.
Not everyone gets on with it, which is fair enough...
I had no real issues with a cables system other than the 3-monthly tweak of a cable adjuster or not getting a shift in some absolutely filthy conditions, I've not had those since going to axs (but I've also been lucky enough to not have too many absolutely filthy rides).
As someone who rides bikes with cable operated gears, old AXS & new T-Type, I can’t ever once recall thinking I was missing some mythical ‘feedback’ from my cables when I no longer had them, nor when I jump back on a bike with cabled gears do I have a hallelujah moment & realise what I was missing.
I press a button, or push a lever & the bike changes gear. They all change roughly at the same sort of speed & life goes on. I like no cables, and having less thumb pain from AXS, I don’t have some battery charging based meltdown about the ‘purity’ of a simple machine, it’s just a bike.
I can’t ever once recall thinking I was missing some mythical ‘feedback’ from my cables when I no longer had them,
I have only briefly tried the transmission shifter, personally prefer the gen1 AXS that I have on my main bike. But I guess thats ergonomics rather than feedback.
The only "feedback" that is missing with AXS is on a cable set up you know when you've hit your bottom gear and you try for another. With AXS every shift feels the same so you push the button expecting a shift that never comes.
If you connect your axs to your bike computer, you get a beep when at furthest ends of the cassette when you change into the last one...
I've got that but often wish I could switch it off as it just reminds me how unfit I am!
re feedback
well as you push through shimano you can feel how many gears you are going through in one sweep, same on the downshift multis
I think you count that rather than feel it, don't you? You can do exactly the same with axs...set up the long press and decide how many gears you want to shift with it (can be set to always 2, always 3, always 4 or until you let go the button)...I'm still not understanding what is feel about that though. You press/click/tap a button/lever/interface and the chain moves in a direction.
Your legs will feel a change as it'll either get easier or harder on them as they turn the pedals.
It is my legs that tell me what gear I'm in, not pressing the shifter and getting a different response/feel depending on which gear I'm in, so I'm clearly too think or too linear in my thinking to get the 'feel' of a shifter. You push/pull, it clicks, the chain moves and you keep pedalling...
