Pros and cons please
yes, I hve got a pair.
Pros -
Seemingly indestructible, amazing battery life well over what they state.
2 lights so one on helmet one on bars. Customer service is great.
Cons- Not as bright as newer lights, never had any issue being able to see when using mine though.
pros - light. bright enough for me. neat. simple mounting. helmet & bar combo for the price of most single lights
cons - er don't have a flashing mode for commuting?
Pros - small, light, solid, great battery, reliable
Cons - naff mounts (bar and helmet) although new gecko mount might be an improvement. "Only" about 200 lumens which may seem underpowered these days, but the optics are very good making the most of it.
I use mine together with a very floody P7 airbike. The P7 is supposed to be more like 700+ but its so badly controlled it doesnt seem like 3x the ayup, but does give a good peripheral light from the bar with the ayup on the lid for spot.
Together their not a bad set up, but expensive for what they are with the current competition, but good value when they came out originally.
billybob - the new ones have a flashing mode.
Pros - long battery life, small, light, well made. two light sets.
Cons - not a fan of the zip tie mounts.
Mine have been great and not having an on/off switch (i believe the new ones do now) isnt an issue as the battery life is so loooooong.
I've had mine for a year and they are great. Personally i like the mounts, I just put mine on and have left them on all year and zip ties are cheap to buy if you do want to take them off. Mounting the battery on a helmet is a bit fiddly but still better than having it in a rucksack. New Gecko mount probably sorts this out. I was amazed when I squished one of the lights recently after a head on collision with a tree but after an email to Oz a replacement light is in the post. It is going to have a slightly wider beam than the intermediate that I was using so should make the set even better. I find mine more than bright enough, I like to feel that I'm riding at night and I feel that it improves your skills riding in less light than daylight.
So what ones would work best, I use a hope HID on the bars and was thinking of the Ay up's for the helmet, what beams do i need
You thinking of just running the one lightset? I use the narrow on my helmet. If your HID has a broad spread then get a narrow for your helmet. Looking at the website they still have a few of last years kits for the single lightset and its a bit cheaper.
so when people are saying that they're not as good as the newer lights, what are they referring to?
I think they are referring to the latest generation of LED lights which are brighter (more lumens). For me the AYUPS are plenty bright enough. Some folks seem hell bent on getting brighter and brighter lights.
anything like a P7 or MCE (sp?) with good optics will be better performing light output than the Ayup LEDs...but...you have to consider the total package (batteries esp)
May be brighter, not necessarily better. As you say you've got to consider things like customer service etc. When I bought mine I think AYUP were offering to upgrade when better LED's when they became avaliable and do it at a reasonable price.
Great lights, Gecko mounts are good, and plenty bright enough for me! Waterproof, easy to get on and off, great service, good burn time, quick charging and according to others pretty robust.
Cons - err, they're not free?
Pros - Tiny, Weigh f*** all, cute as hell, tiny battery, great burn times, quick charging, bomb proof, bags of light, loads of colours...
Cons - Not "in" this season
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Great lights, no real complaints. I did have to tape the bars to get the mounts to stay rigid, but that's it really. They weight hardly anything and are plenty light enough.
as a helmet light I would say absolutely ace. I have a narrow beam one that's 2 yrs old, which coupled up with a Hope 4 on the bars gives for me the ideal light setup. I stick the battery on my camelbak so the head unit weight is un-noticeable. I also have a joystick which I use on the lid in summer - the Ayups are much better
All the lumen discussion is up for ocnjecture in that to truely determine 'lumen output' you need to calibrate and measure the entire device (not just the LED chip or array) in an integrated sphere (all VERY technical and expensive.)
Often the given lumen output is NOT actually what is achieved in a Sphere and is very misleading.
With that said, Ay Ups are the business.
Smart design, light weight, narrow or wide beam, decent batteries and all comes in either a nice neoprene pouch, or now available in a waterproof peli type case.
I have used the 'normal zip mounts' (not fancy, but light weight and works, so what is there to complain about?
Recently upgraded to Gekos, which are very simple but superb and make using Ay Ups way better in my opinion.
Why did I pick Ay Ups?
Cost, design, concept, touch/feel and the various colours and beam patterns available.
More than enough light to make even the most dense night time forest trial accessible, rideable and safe.
The customer service is second to none and knowing the guys at Ay Up, I assume that owners will be made aware of new technology updates as they become available.
The cons: great for bike, easy of ease.....also can be used as head torch with Ay Up headband (nice, high quality gear)...so the Ay Up investment has many uses....I have even used mine to light up photography projects and to light my back yard when I am chopping logs for the fire at night!! ( Can you get the same uses out of other cycle lights?)
I love them, would recommend them and would not swop mine ever ! 😉
Has anyone recently ordered from Oz? what was the total cost and roughly what are the shipping times?
cheers
Jim
The zip tie mounts aren't spangly ali - but at 24/12 we used the same light bracket mount tie to fasten the number board - very tidy!
Pros
Tiny
cute
long run time
light weight
great customer service
simple
choice of colours (so what, I went gun metal)
Converts to a head torch for dog walking in the winter (£250 to walk the dog at night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Neutrals
the mounts are so light and unasuming, I leave them on all the time and don't think about it. I've got the gekco mount for the lid so it just leaves velcro dots behind. Remember to put the fluffy half on the helmet, not the rough half or they snag everything in your kit bag!
Not the brightest but then, how much is too much? I'm one of those that things too much and it starts glaring and turning to day light and not really night riding anymore.
Cons
UK bods have now gone but it's only a small con as AUS is still great to deal with
I don't get to use them enough!
Prefer them to my TriNewt and Hope lights
I recently bought some new bits from AUZ...didn't cost very much to ship and came over really quickly. Nice and easy....he could well have been in the UK/EU
If you want something more multipurpose then the iBlaast from Nightlightning has been great for me. Mines actually an Endurenz but is on its 4th set of LED upgrades so its about 4x brighter than when i bought it and its been utterly indestructable - i value having a battery and light that can go for a full night or two on medium in races rather then farting around with lots of batteries but thats just what i use it for.