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[Closed] A couple of wheelset questions?

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So going to treat myself to a new pair of wheels as a Christmas present.
I have narrowed it down to; Hope hoops 2 on mavic EN521

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/wheel-sets/product/review-hope-technology-hope-hoops-pro-2-evo-on-mavic-en521-wheelset-11-45051/

or Hope hoops 2 on Stans ZRT Flow rims

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/wheel-sets/product/review-hope-technology-hope-hoops-pro-2-evo-on-mavic-en521-wheelset-11-45051/

Just what I can find the cheapest really.

The question is should I order them off an ebay shop like ''fastpartsforbikes'', another cheaper internet shop, they cost about £265

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Pay the extra and get them from Evans, chain reaction etc, will the extra £50 get better build quality.

Also is a hope pro 2 evo the same as a hope hoop 2 pro evo?
I went on there web page and they have no info on the hoops range.


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 2:18 pm
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I had a pair off that fella on ebay, they where right enough, however he is slow and not great to deal with.


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 2:24 pm
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I would either go with the cheap internet place or my LBS, build quality will be the same.

Also is a hope pro 2 evo the same as a hope hoop 2 pro evo?

The term Evo only applies to the new version of the Pro 2 hub, so yes.


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 2:37 pm
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Hope Hoops is Hope's name for their factory [url= http://www.hopetech.com/page.aspx?itemID=SPG246 ]wheelsets[/url] anyone else can (hand) build a wheel using a Hope hub.

You can get the [url= http://www.progressive-bikes.co.uk/product/hope_hoops_front_and_reard_evo_hubs_with_flow_rims/?gclid=CPOqzOqyp60CFWIntAodRBTdlg ]Flows [/url]from Simon at Progressive Bikes for £269.99. I've bought stuff from Simon in the past and would recommend him/his company.

I have no direct experience of fastpartsforbikes but review these threads before making a decision [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/is-this-dave-hinde-fastpartsforbikes ]here [/url] and [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fastpartsforbikes-very-low-hoops-prices-should-i-risk-it ]here[/url]


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 2:43 pm
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Contact your lbs the hope hoops are made by the guys at hope. £300 should get you the pro 2 evos on mavic en521's


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 4:50 pm
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Cheers guys the only thing putting me off the stans is the tubless system.
Can you take the tubless valve out and use an inner tube and standard tyre?


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 9:46 pm
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[i]Can you take the tubless valve out and use an inner tube and standard tyre?[/i]

The wheels won't come fitted with valve and yellow tape. In fact, when I bought my Hoops, they came with standard Velox tape included but not fitted. You can run inner tubes and tyres no problem; they're just like any other rims, there's really nothing special about...I ran my 355s with inner tubes for ages before finally switching to tubeless


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 10:04 pm
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Can you take the tubless valve out and use an inner tube and standard tyre?

The wheels won't come fitted with valve and yellow tape. In fact, when I bought my Hoops, they came with standard Velox tape included but not fitted. You can run inner tubes and tyres no problem; they're just like any other rims, there's really nothing special about...I ran my 355s with inner tubes for ages before finally switching to tubeless

Perfect, do you have stan's rims, I like the look of them?


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 10:17 pm
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Flows are very nice. Then, so are 521s. Not a lot of strength difference despite the weight difference, but Flows do dent a bit more easily.

I just took my 721s off the DH bike and fitted my old Flows, so, let's see if I die 😉 It's not like I ride it very fast...


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 10:19 pm
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[i]Perfect, do you have stan's rims, I like the look of them?[/i]

Yep, had both Hope Hoops with Stans 355 (Hoops came with 355 rims before they changed to Stans Crest rims) and with Flow rims


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 10:32 pm
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They should be fine for me I am a crazy rider, just want something I know will last for a few years with no major problems.


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 10:49 pm
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They should be fine for me I am a crazy rider, just want something I know will last for a few years with no major problems.

NOT a crazy rider. I laughed when I noticed that lol.


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 11:14 pm
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are the shimano XT ones worth a look - or is is hope hoops/stans all the way? Little bit cheaper - but not much.

[url= http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop/Wheels/Mountain+Bike+Wheels/Factory+Mountain+Bike+Wheels/Shimano+XT+M785+Disc+Factory+Wheelset_WHM785.htm?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googlebase&utm_term=Factory+Mountain+Bike+Wheels ]shimano[/url]


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 11:25 pm
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It's always a laugh looking at the Ebay feedback for fastpartsforbikes 😕


 
Posted : 29/12/2011 11:51 pm
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are the shimano XT ones worth a look - or is is hope hoops/stans all the way? Little bit cheaper - but not much.

Some people (myself included) prefer cartridge bearings (used in Hope hubs) over Shimano cup and cone. I had problems with my XT wheels when the Freehub seized and wouldn't engage. Unfortunately the Freehub is a sealed unit and I couldn't find a replacement, when I did it was almost as much as a full hub. I fixed it eventually by soaking it in degreaser and then light oil. If it was a Hope I could have stripped it down and cleaned it.

Other thoughts:
The Shimanos come with quick release skewers, extra cost on the Hopes
The Hopes are compatible with all current front wheel standards the ones you linked to are q/r and may not be convertible.


 
Posted : 30/12/2011 12:24 pm
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I noticed that the newer Shimano wheels are using the center lock rotor mount so you would need an adaptor or new discs, I think?


 
Posted : 30/12/2011 1:50 pm