[Closed] £40 for 3 bits of plastic!

3D printing would do it for a lot lot less.

Don't know if one of the shock tuning companies would have single ones for sale ?

Tooling costs vs quantity sold vs profit I'm afraid.

Can you make your own with polymorph? What sort of temperature do shocks get to inside?

daveatextremistsdotcouk - Member

Tooling costs vs quantity sold vs profit I'm afraid.

Don't know if one of the shock tuning companies would have single ones for sale ?

I phoned Mojo. It was a 'no'. I also tried my 2 x LBSs.

Tooling costs vs quantity sold vs profit I'm afraid.

Fox need these in their shocks, so I wouldn't imagine they have small quantities. My LBS said it was just typical of Fox to charge a premium - Rockshox gives them to him for free.

Tooling costs vs quantity sold vs profit I'm afraid.

More like 'what the market will bear' in this instance I think.

Yep, they were £25 a few years ago and I flogged the two I didn't need on here for 1/3 of the cost each.

3D printing would do it for a lot lot less.

Maybe.....

I mean if you ignore the cost of a CAD package and training time, and ignore the cost of the printer, and the cost of labor and the hours of machine time, then yes, it's probably about 50p of material.

I'd put money on you not finding anyone prepared to print those commercially for less than £40.

What are the internal and external diameters? I've got some nylon spacers here in various thicknesses that I used in my (Suntour) forks and shocks. You need to cut a section out so that it can be slipped on and off the shaft (pfffft!) but they cost like 10p each or something. They don't say 'Fox' on them though, so they might not work in their forks.

What are the internal and external diameters?

I believe the shape is important... I think. It has a lip around the edge, that I presume is there for a reason. Just a bit wary of bodging something up.

i'll go halves with you

up there with vet charges 😯

Ah, Fox and their "reassuringly expensive" pricing structure.

There's a reason why I have Rockshox forks on both of my bikes.

Maybe.....

I mean if you ignore the cost of a CAD package and training time, and ignore the cost of the printer, and the cost of labor and the hours of machine time, then yes, it's probably about 50p of material.

I'd put money on you not finding anyone prepared to print those commercially for less than £40.

I get mine 3D printed, £15 a pop. Many online places to upload your file, select a whole raft of materials and printing technology used, instant quote, fast turnaround.

Plus I've been able to go even bigger than what you can buy (200x51 shock, which is a 200x57 with less stroke, hence needs bigger volume spacers to get to the same progression).

Which Float shock is it for as they are forever changing the shape. i have a load for a Float CTD from 2014, but they don't fit the float X or the newer normal floats i believe.

To be fair though the spacers tuned my shock better than having it Pushed.
Will look in my drawer when I get home.

The Vorsprung kits from TF Tuned do the same job for cheaper. Still too much, but less than Fox.

The worst thing about the Fox kit is that they're generic kits and not all the spacers will even fit your shock so I've been led to believe.

I've got a Vorsprung Float X kit - still setting it up, but once I've decided which ones I want I may have some spare.

And why aren't they supplied with the shock in the first place?

£40 to make a £400 piece of kit work properly?

It'd be funny if it wasn't so disrespectful to their customers.

Odd, as they do include them with the Float X2.

I got angry as I needed one recently & refused to spend £40 on 3 bits of plastic.

Thankfully I found an old one in the spares box!

I bought a whole new air sleeve for a shock a couple of years ago, did the same thing (reduced air volume) £18..... The sticker for it cost more.
You wait until you see how much the crush washers for fox forks are.

But they glow in the dark! - Thats worth £40 of anyones money

I'm with OP on this one, when they were new (5+ years ago) and they were £25 I told myself, it's not the materials or the production, it's the R&D etc - but they must have recouped that by now and to bump the price up to £40!

They do work well though and for £40 they have a good performance boost if you need them, but still...

I shared mine with a mate.

At Just a smidge under £40 from mojo you get charged £2.95 for postage too 😀
Postage free is over £40!!

I bought the Vorsprung ones from TFTuned recently, £28 inc postage, still a complete rip off by a lot more palletable. You don't get a pack of float fluid but I don't see why you'd need it unless you were due a service anyway.

Turns out I already had the middle one in there, (RP23 on 5010) so the big one went in!

Here's the one I took out of the shock (2016 Fox Float Performance EVOL):

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It looks like the ones that come with the [url= http://www.mojo-store.co.uk/kit-float-ctd-9mm-shaft-air-spring-volume-tuning-kit-c2x18535388 ]FLOAT CTD/DPS 9mm Shaft, Air Spring Volume Tuning Kit[/url] on Mojo's website. Which seems odd, as they have different ones for the [url= http://www.mojo-store.co.uk/kit-float-air-spring-volume-tuning-kit-c2x18535378 ]FLOAT Air Spring Volume Tuning Kit[/url]

daver27 - Member
Which Float shock is it for as they are forever changing the shape. i have a load for a Float CTD from 2014, but they don't fit the float X or the newer normal floats i believe.

If you have one that looks compatible then please let me know.

So they charge you 40 quid and don't bother to make it clear which one you need. Great.

Try here:

http://www.tftuned.com/shock-parts/vorsprung/c325

Looks on the face like the Float X ones are different to what you need.

If only someone had the chutzpah to measure them and have a batch of 'compatible' parts knocked up...

Isn't the ghetto solution just to pack some grease in your can to reduce volume? Infinitely adjustable too

Isn't the ghetto solution just to pack some grease in your can to reduce volume? Infinitely adjustable too

Not if there's a transfer port which the grease could block.

I get mine 3D printed, £15 a pop. Many online places to upload your file, select a whole raft of materials and printing technology used, instant quote, fast turnaround.

A website like Shapeways would be able to do this no problem.

Edit - looks like someone's already done it. £15.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/FJZKXXATN/fox-float-volume-reducer-large-spacer

Ok... this is getting complicated. The spacer I have removed must be the 0.80in^3 based on the [url= http://service.foxracingshox.com/consumers/Content/Service/QuickTech/013CTD_FloatAirSpringSpacerProc.htm ]Fox service website[/url]:

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That's basically the largest possible. I'm currently running with zero spacers and it feels better, but probably taken it a bit too far. So I'd be looking for either a 0.2 or 0.4in^3 spacer.

I get mine 3D printed, £15 a pop. Many online places to upload your file, select a whole raft of materials and printing technology used, instant quote, fast turnaround.

£45* for three then, bargain :-p

*and you still had to spend time CAD'ing it.

It's just a lump to take up some volume, it doesn't really require any great precision really does it...

Some basic measurements, a fag packet drawings and an old bit of nylon (chopping board?), using a hole saw/couple of drill bits/Dremmel/file? and you could easily knock something up...
Bollox to 3D printing.

In fact didn't people used to just put extra big dollops of grease in the air can for just this exact purpose? what's wrong with that?

In fact didn't people used to just put extra big dollops of grease in the air can for just this exact purpose? what's wrong with that?

Blocks the transfer port to the negative spring.

I've wasted all morning trying to work this out. Sod it. Dremmel it is:

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There's a casting void that I'll need to fill in with some Araldite, but otherwise I think that'll do. Cost me nothing. F*ck you Fox.

I've wasted all morning trying to work this out.....................Cost me nothing. F*ck you Fox.

Apart from a morning not doing work?

thisisnotaspoon - Member
I've wasted all morning trying to work this out.....................Cost me nothing. F*ck you Fox.
Apart from a morning not doing work?

The joys of being unemployed.

Oh, I can confirm it is exactly 0.4in^3 determined by a glass of water, scales and Archimedes Principle. Feeling smug.

Good job fanatic278, but can you prove Archimedes principle using Gauss's Theorem of Divergence?

Only just saw this, I'd have 3D printed it for you for free!