[Closed] 3 Peaks CX question

But why don't you speak and write in Elvish or Goblin? Same thing -

slavish conformity to arbitrary rules

simonfbarnes - Member

what are we to conclude

That people are fed up of you carping on about the same thing or just generally posting on any thread and changing the topic from what the OP was asking about/discussing to what you want it to be - ME ME ME!!!

what to conclude indeed. That folk find you a bit irritating?

But why don't you speak and write in Elvish or Goblin?

I have indeed widely criticised the rules of grammar, spelling etc as expounded by others on here...

I don't even object to the rules of the 3 Peaks, (though I regret the exclusion of mountain bikes) and I think they're funny in their arbitrary nature. I prefer pragmatic rules like "Don't crash into other people or ride with your eyes closed"

sfb moaning asides, it does p@ss me off that so many people (on all forums it seems) whinge about the rules. i mean, how many times do i have to read someone harping on about why they can't use a 29er, why they can't use anything other than flats or standard drops and/or why their tyres must be under 35mm etc etc?

at the end of the day this event is pretty much singlehandedly organised put by john rawnsley, the guy deserves ultimate respect for his devotion and passion (not too mention that at 70+ yrs old to still be able to compete in the 3 peaks and still beat far younger riders is an inspiration to anyone who rides a bike) so to me, to criticise his rules is pretty out of order and at the end of the day if you don't like it don't ride it.

, to criticise his rules is pretty out of order and at the end of the day if you don't like it don't ride it.

you mean like, if you don't like the government just move to another country ? Or that we shouldn't criticise the rules (which I haven't yet) because the organiser is old ? Nothing should be sacrosanct, and a robust construct can stand up to criticism.

Why? Is his bike race a democracy? Paid by for your taxes?

Do shut up.

You're just demonstrating your lack of understanding of the event and what makes it successful.

You're just demonstrating your lack of understanding of the event and what makes it successful.

I have a complete misunderstanding of all racing. But surely the event succeeds because of the participants, not the rules?

does it? Explain?

I've just been inspired to read the "history" page of the 3 Peaks website - brilliant stuff. It reads like something out of The Chap magazine.

Ginger, who had made a round trip of 480 miles to compete, flew over the handlebars a few times, and said: "It'll need a bit of thinking about" when he was asked if he would be back for next year's race.

http://www.3peakscyclocross.org.uk/history/1961.htm

The rules are simple - no bikes allowed that are remotely suitable for riding in the fells/mountains.

The bollocks about we can't have mountain bikes because of landowners is also balls. That goes back to about 1980 when some people tried to practice on the route and caused upset. The race organiser went to them and said oh it's not us its mountainbikers and watch - we'll not allow them in.

Farmers are not remotely interested in what types of bikes are used (as long as they are pedal bikes). 90% of the farmers on the route are my neighbours!

C

i can't understand why everyone is moaning - there are lots of mtb events, enter them instead.
The 3peaks is a dedicated cross race, i did it last year for the first time and it is great. I hope it always stays a cross race. If you want to do it, buy or borrow a cross bike and stop whinging.

I don't even object to the rules of the 3 Peaks

I just want to do it as it's in my backyard and there is no other MTB race over the 3 peaks

ChrisE, organise one, sounds like you've got the connections.

Don't forget, no irritating irrational rules, or your event will never grow to become a fixture of the national race calendar for over 40 years...

I might just do that. 2 rules only, no old men with beards & Rob Jebb not allowed to enter.

It's a 'cross race, for 'cross bikes. The bike regs pretty much accord with the UCI 'cross bike regs, with the exception of allowing flat bars and disc brakes. Those two stipulations were introduced by the UCI only quite recently.

you mean like, if you don't like the government just move to another country ?

there is a time to protest and a time to applaud.

my point is simply that having ridden the 3 peaks i have nothing but admiration, and importantly respect, for the organizer and the event that he has created.

i can't understand why everyone is moaning

I wasn't actually moaning, and most of the moaning was by people who seemed to think I was :o)

I was intrigued to learn that the exclusion of MTB's was pointless as farmers hate all cyclists equally ...

SFB, I've started imagining that your posts are being read by the voice of Kenneth Williams, and I must say it improves them immensely.

SFB, I've started imagining that your posts are being read by the voice of Kenneth Williams

please spare us your sexual fantasies :o)

[edit] oh, and: "Inny [b]bold[/b] ??

With respect to flat h/bars being limited to 50cm.Its my understanding that this came about over concerns for safety in the mad charge on the roads of the start.400 riders in a pelethon traveling at 40mph !! All you need is someone with a wide pair of flat bars hooking into your drops.

ChrisE

You're wrong. I've a choice of lightweight HT, 4" full susser and CX bike and I'd choose the CX bike every time for speed over that route. I was descending rocky Lakes tracks tonight on it and it was slower than my MTBs obviously, but up hill, on road and on grassy fells it's faster, and arguably more fun. Certainly requires more skill and commitment.

ChrisE You're wrong.

I assumed his remark was tongue in cheek :o)

Heads up that the entry form is now back online over on www.3peakscyclocross.org.uk

Seems that the feared deluge of entries that lead to it being removed after only 11hrs has failed to materialise and there's still a few dozen places left...

Not too late sfb........

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