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[Closed] 29er wheels same as 700c?

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Not sure, but are 29er wheels the same as 700c? I have a new cyclocross bike and am looking to upgrade the wheels. The rear hub is 135 qr spacing.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:45 pm
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i have always found them to be the same.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:47 pm
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Same diameter yes, but check the width of the rims for whatever tyres you want to fit.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:55 pm
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Yes. I have a 700c tyre on the rear of my gravel bike and a 29" one on the front on the same 700c rims/wheels. My 29" HT wheels are also interchangeable with the 700c ones on the gravel bike. As above, check widths and make sure hubs are the same and should be OK


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 12:57 am
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There might be a technicality difference, but essentially they are the same.

My FatNotFat 29er wheels are ~20mm internal rim width, a set of 700x28 tyres are a very safe minimum option to fit, up to a maximum of 29x2.35" (where I would need to not run pressures too low because of tyre shape and to keep the bead seated).

My road bike's wheels are 17mm internal rim width, 700x23 tyres are a safe minimum, with ~700x50 being a safe maximum (not that my bike has clearance for more than ~32mm wide tyres).


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 6:11 am
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Yes, they are exactly the same. ย I presume inches are used because MTB came from US so we had 26 inch and then 29 inch and then 27.5 inch.

I have been using MTB rims on road (fixed track) bikes for years as disc rims are all black and don't have a braking surface (as I don't need one). ย  Currently using Mavic XC621 as they are cheap and light which have had 700 X 25, and 700 x 43 tyres on but would happily run a 29er MTB tyre.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 7:34 am
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Check the maximum pressures, not usually a huge amount in it (certainly for bigger CX tyres) but XC 29er rims will be lower than a road rim.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 8:02 am
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I think Gary Fisher coined the term "29er" and "29 inch" to market his big-wheeled mountain bikes. ย Which used 700c (622mm bsd) ย rims so no new rim standard was actually needed, just fatter tyres. ย Basically re-badged cyclocross rims. ย Including the tyre the diameter was about 28.5 inches. ย The first 29" tyres were not very tall (allegedly so they could be made in existing tyre making tooling) and didn't come in sizes much above 2.1" if I recall.

Just like 27.5" and 650b (584mm bsd) - same rim diameter. ย (27.5 came after 29.)

I guess this all flows from the original mountain bike nomenclature coming from the US where they re-purposed wheels and tyres called 26" and they like imperial units anyway. ย  It makes some kind of sense for subsequent mountain bike wheel sizes to use the same naming method.

Road, cross and gravel (despite the latter being a bit of a USAian invention I think) use metric. ย Probably because gravel was invented by roadies. ย Seems particularly confusing in the case of gravel bikes, where tyres are getting up to mountain bike widths.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 8:40 am