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Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
van der Breggen 16 secs down at second timecheck
Looks like the Russian doper is going to win - sounds like Boardman is ignoring her
Van Dijk first by 3 secs, longo borghini 2nd, whitten down to third. Emma pooley well out of it 🙁
zabelinskaya takes first by 16.77. only four riders still out
actual doper, or just Russian?
Actual.
Real time served doper
Ah
[quote=atlaz ]Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
How wasn't she good in the RR? The national TT champ wouldn't have ever got anywhere near the top on that course, whilst Emma stood a chance given her pedigree and capabilities.
van der breggen finishes second, 6 secs down
Did the UCI get the final call on her participation? Would have thought that should've been an easy call. 🙄
That podium gazebo looks grim in the weather,.....
Time served... heh
In July 2014 it was reported that Zabelinskaya had tested positive for octopamine at an international race in the spring.[6] In February 2016, she accepted an 18 month ban, which she already served and which expired in September 2015
Phew, clean rider wins
Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
Emma was 4th in the British Cycling National TT Championships, about 40 seconds behind Hayley Simmonds. HS is a specialist TTer who would have been no good at all in the road race.
Claire Rose (2nd in the TT Champs) would have been a reaosnable shout, she's a good road racer but she's completely untested at that level - at least Emma Pooley is a former World TT Champion and an Olympic silver medallist in Beijing so out of everyone she was the best shot. And we only qualified 3 riders in the Women's Road / TT anyway so it didn't exactly leave a lot of choice...
Thank goodness for that.
Armstrong first by 5.55
Thank goodness for that.
exactly what i thought
Chapeau Armstrong. Not said that for a while 🙂
Looks more like Rochdale than Rio.
from (ocho) Rio to dorking...
Not even a big KA fan (not quite sure why - maybe just because she beat Emma in Beijing!), but OZ shouldn't even be there, so very happy with that result.
Doper beaten!
Woop woop!
atlaz - Member
Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
Might be better off asking why our national federation chose not to qualify any men or women for the mtb events?
Doper beaten!Woop woop!
+1. The fact that she was even there at all is annoying, much less that she was 2nd.
Good event that - let's see how the Men get on.
[quote=crazy-legs ]Emma was 4th in the British Cycling National TT Championships, about 40 seconds behind Hayley Simmonds. HS is a specialist TTer who would have been no good at all in the road race.
She wouldn't have been any good on that course. Emma was encouraged to make a comeback by the GB cycling coaches on seeing the course because the climbing was likely to suit her - she's almost certainly a significantly better climber than any of the girls who finished ahead of her in the nationals.
From the looks of that result it's unlikely she'd have made the podium in any case, but I can't help wondering how much of the 2 minutes she was off that was due to the conditions, which clearly didn't suit her at all.
And we're off in the mens. Top Namibian beard.
Dan Craven is away - left his TT bike behind.
As soon as I heard it was very windy, I thought her small frame wouldn't help her.
I'm surprised they thought it was that much of a climber's course, given that only 15% of the time was spent climbing.
Whilst Armitstead got all the negative publicity for going to CAS, Zabelinskaya seemed to have gone under the radar. Hardly raced at all since her comeback, so not much in-competition testing. And as to out of comp testing by her home federation during the last few years.......
[quote=mikey74 ]As soon as I heard it was very windy, I thought her small frame wouldn't help her.
My comments aren't hindsight - I suggested that a couple of pages ago before they started.
I'm surprised they thought it was that much of a climber's course, given that only 15% of the time was spent climbing.
I'm wondering from the pre-race comments whether it was going to be a hillier course and they then changed it to something flatter? It clearly wasn't anything like as tough as the Beijing TT course. You'd think it would have been decided before they did selections - it's not like Pooley is rubbish on the flat though.
Namibian rider with a pair of Gatorskin tyres FTW! 🙂
Can't believe there was no LBS that had some clip-on aero bars for Craven to use. 😆
With those sunglasses, Dan Craven looks like he's out for a sunday club run
Proper Olympian spirit from Dan Craven there "TT? yeah I'll give it a go mate"
I hardly want to discuss Zabelinskaya, but ISTM she epitomises the reason why the IOC should have given a blanket ban to the Russian team if they'd actually had any balls - given that CAS in it's wisdom has said that they can't ban anybody just because they've had a previous doping violation. Clearly her doping incident came right during the dodgy period and the Russian Federation decided not to even sanction her for it - in my mind (like CB it seems) she doesn't even exist and van der Breggen came second.
Oh and the UCI are pussies as well for letting her take a retrospective 18 month ban, which appears to have made zero difference to her.
Looks like the descent is drying out, in patches
I thought that, I guess with it being windy and (presuambly) warm, should dry quickly
The air temp. was 21 degrees at the beginning of the women's, so presumably it's higher than that now.
Why the longish delay between the different starter groups?
My heart is in my mouth every time I see a rider crossing the yellow lines on that twisty descent.
Doesn't look like that's drying out much, or likely to.
I rode the Rio route a month ago 8) The new tarmac on the cobbles wasn't there then. There are certainly some punchy climbs on it!
On that day, they were also resurfacing the long beachfront section for the road race and had closed it to cars, so we were the first to ride it, without traffic too.
Why the longish delay between the different starter groups?
Traffic on the course. Given that the Men do 2 laps of that circuit, you'll end up with riders on their first lap entering the circuit at the same time as the early riders are coming round again to start their second lap which would just lead to traffic issues.
Traffic on the course. Given that the Men do 2 laps of that circuit, you'll end up with riders on their first lap entering the circuit at the same time as the early riders are coming round again to start their second lap which would just lead to traffic issues.
I thought it was something like that, cheers.
Why the longish delay between the different starter groups?
Something to do with creating a gap in the field since its 2 laps of a circuit.