[Closed] 10 speed - let me get this straight...

My knowledge of Shimano 6-9 speed

6-9 speed rear mechs are cross compatable. Fronts? - "kind of" - you may experience rubbing (fnaar).

9s chains work on 6-9s cassettes & chainrings (with a few exceptions).

8s chains work on 6-8s cassettes & chainrings.

Pretty much, why is this such a big issue? I mean I don't go into halfords shouting the odds because ford oil filters wont fit BMW engines?

I'm holding out for the Gilette Decade 10 blade.

What? oh you were talking about gears.

Shimano 10 speed rear mechs are definitely not compatible with other Shimano as the cable pull is different. Not certain about the SRAM 10 speed mechs though. I think Shimano have moved to the SRAM 9 speed actuation ratio for their 10 speed (or something very close to it), but don't know if SRAM have changed to something else. Shimano 9 speed is a 2:1 and SRAM 9 speed is 1:1 IIRC.

All 6 speed mechs these days are so sh1te you can't tell if they're working properly or not. And a 9 speed chain won't fit on the jockey wheels all that well.

6, 7, 8 chains cross are compatible, 9 speed with 9 speed, 10 speed ROAD chains with 10 speed ROAD, shimano 10 speed MTB chain on its own.

TBH I have my doubts about SRAM 10 speed cassettes and shimano 10 speed STIs, we've had some issues with Roubaixes which come with that mix and don't shift perfectly down from 5 to 4.

Pretty much, why is this such a big issue? I mean I don't go into halfords shouting the odds because ford oil filters wont fit BMW engines?

Where did he say it was a big issue?

The 10 speed road chains work just fine, got them on all my MTBs which are all 10 speed.

According to the man on the shimano stand at sits the actuation ration for the dynasys is 1:1.5

I've got a shimano 10spd road chain on my SRAM 10spd drivetrain and it works just dandy. Don't think you can mix cassettes/mechs though.

Pretty much, why is this such a big issue? I mean I don't go into halfords shouting the odds because ford oil filters wont fit BMW engines?

But why don't they?

I have always liked swapping around components/upgrading slowly but with the recent introduction of so many standards [i]it's progression - better, stronger, lighter bikes blah de blah[/i] it is quite confusing and a lot more expensive to change around frames etc.

Gone are the days you could swap a frame and just have to worry about the front mech and seatpost fitting... 🙁

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=646014

Where did he say it was a big issue?

Whos homeless?

so there y'go oxym0r0n, that's it definitively answered - it's all a matter of opinion.

so there y'go oxym0r0n, that's it definitively answered - it's all a matter of opinion.

Thanks StuE - that's a useful thread for Shimano...

But why don't they?

I have always liked swapping around components/upgrading slowly but with the recent introduction of so many standards it's progression - better, stronger, lighter bikes blah de blah it is quite confusing and a lot more expensive to change around frames etc.

Gone are the days you could swap a frame and just have to worry about the front mech and seatpost fitting...

My old forks are a bit heavy, do you reckon the new sektor lowers will fit my 2003 pilots?

My old forks are a bit heavy, do you reckon the new sektor lowers will fit my 2003 pilots?

I don't know why I am even bothering - you don't have a BMW, you have an MG which does not even run, plus you have bombers which weigh as much as my bike not pilots AFAIK.

I bet when you were a kid your lego was all mixed up with sticklebricks and playmobile! Go and tidy your man cave or something 🙄

The only ting single speed is'nt compatible with is healthy knees....and having friends.
I'm deliberately ignoring the whole 1/8,3/32 thing to preserve the comedy effect.