New Uncaged versions of YT Decoy MX and Capra MX

Not that I would ever buy an ebike from abroad, but they still use 540wh batteries when the rest are doing a move from 625/630 to 720/750.

Good. Keep the weight low (in both meanings of the word) for better handling.

Not sure it’s keeping the weight low or how would improve handling on an ebike, only thing for sure is it’s keeping the range low.

Not sure it’s keeping the weight low or how would improve handling on an ebike, only thing for sure is it’s keeping the range low.

Well it’s 30% less capacity than a 700wh battery so is significantly smaller & lighter.

FWIW as someone who has had a big battery bike, I would take a smaller battery, lighter option that rides better. The Decoy can still do a 2k+ vert day if you are prepared to pedal.

That doesn’t equate to 30% weight savings

It pretty much does on the battery, compared to a 700wh one, which is probably the new normal, obviously even bigger = even more weight.

YT have been pretty vocal about a 700wh battery & how they weren’t happy with the detrimental effect it had on the handling of the bike (it’s not like it can’t be done, it’s just more cells & there is definitely the space in the downtube for bigger).

Whilst I don’t own one, I’ve ridden one fairly extensively & the Decoy Mullet is one of the best riding ebikes I’ve ridden. I can see why they are sticking with a proven theory. I’d go so far as to say there are very few ebikes with a 600+Wh battery I would chose, just because of the sheer weight of the things going up further & further.

For sure there is a market for full fat ebikes with massive batteries, but the ongoing arms race for bigger & bigger batteries is not something I’m interested in.

Again, would need to see evidence of the battery weights, quick check of google puts 700wh spesh at 3.8kg, 625wh bosch at 3.5kg and the 540wh at 3.4kg, so less difference between 700wh and 540wh than a bottle with some water on the downtube. I’d hazard a guess YT are vocal about a 700wh battery due to how they went about creating a bespoke battery and compartment in the Decoy.

Most folk i know on ebikes are looking at bigger for the future with enduro ebikes, they want something that can take advantage of BPW or the likes, for lighter ebikes, something like the forrestal’s look great, 17.5kg bikes with 360wh batteries and the ability to add an extender if you wanted too.

Yeah, they are hitting that sweet spot with the newer generation of light ebikes, but the Decoy is still one of the full fat variety, i do love those new forrestal’s, just a shame they’re a fortune, the Orbea again has that extender ability where you can turn the 360wh base into a 620wh bike with the bottle battery attached, so when you want that bit more range, you can have it easily, again not an option that YT have thought off in this new uncaged version, they seem very stuck in their ‘old’ mould for a decoy.

I love my Shred. It handles brilliantly and it’s just fun! It suits what I need it for perfectly, which is generally sub 2 hour solo rides after work. If I wanted to do loads of huge rides, or I rode with other e bikers, I’d probably want a bigger battery though.