Hmmm Grisedale Pike is now a popular cheeky summit these days, wonder if it has something to do with its proximity to Whinlatter.
I remember back in the mid 80’s, I did the whole Coledale horseshoe on my Townsend. The descent from Grisedale Pike was utterly sublime, though at the bottom, the tendons in my hands hurt so much from squeezing ineffective canti brakes I could barely drive home.
As for “Hateful”, sorry, it just really wasnt my cup of tea. In fairness, to get a balanced perspective, I will have to try it in summer, as when I went it was frozen solid and rammed full of people, never seen a trail so busy. However, from my first visit I cant really see mayself as returning. Keswick is 2hrs drive for me and there is just too much outstanding natural stuff in the area to waste the trip on Whinlatter. That and the fact that I much prefer an damn good thrashing session into a sock watching a third rate soap.