I'm living in poverty. I've got no healthcare, but I'm not going to vote for no free healthcare, cos dat would be socialism!!!

Literally Turkeys voting for christmas

Or it could be people who want to take responsibility for themselves rather than having the childlike dependence on the state which is all too prevalent in this country

Well done fella! Care to argue the logic of this then?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/10/gladney-uninsured/

Being injured at an anti-healthcare rally, then asking for donations, as…erm … he didn't have any healthcare. Like I said: turkeys voting for christmas

rather than having the childlike dependence on the state which is all too prevalent in this country

so childlike to share the burden of health costs so you don't have to worry about getting sick if you lose your job…

As he is Amerian what a shame the bitter irony is wasted on him very funny.

Americans get irony & sarcasm..Its just got a different accent is all.

My 2 pence (3c): Flat Earth Society – what the **** is all that about???

Anyone that follows a monotheistic religion

Religion is bad enough but monotheistic religions…

Hefty LOL

The group i find the funniest[apart from the Scientology who are funny in an extremely scary way]is Jehovah Witlesses
They changed the day that the world was suppose to end in their holy Si-Fi book when it didnt come off.The funny thing about them is they deny they even had the date in the book[despite it still saying so in older copies].
I think they've 'recalculated' the date 7 or 8 times.Each time denying the last.
thank goodness they arent militant 😯

anyone who paid to listen to babyshambles.

Classic from Stoner! 🙂

I'd suggest anyone with 2 different sized wheels on their bikes.
Why? WHY? WHY??
Half the advantages of both sizes cancelled out by half the disadavantges of both sizes! No need!

Guardianista's.

I can't stand the intolerant.

As a "Godbotherer" I am hurt at our poor showing so far,maybe things will pick up a bit later.
Mine; Anybody who thinks it is ok to kill another human being for their "cause" (be it religious,ethnic,political)
JLS fans
Survivalists
The Government of the rogue state of Israel (not jews)

Folks who slag off organised religion, slating all believers as deluded fools, without offering up a errr rational explanation as to why there are so many otherwise sane, sensible, intelligent and pleasant believers.

Yeah why do atheists spend so much time having a go at the religious? Surely have better things to do? But perhaps it's just the nature of many to slag of people who are different? So maybe that's what I don't get.

I wish i was paid to listen to Babyshambles….

Passes tin helmets and sandbags to Vinnyeh and mudshark then ducks himself while awaiting the arrival of Junkyard.

Yeah why do atheists spend so much time having a go at the religious? Surely have better things to do? But perhaps it's just the nature of many to slag of people who are different? So maybe that's what I don't get.

As an atheist I'll answer those questions

I don't.
I do.
Oh the irony.

Being an atheist, and therefore not belonging to any religious group, I however can only speak for myself and I wouldn't dream of speaking for anyone else.

Folks who slag off organised religion, slating all believers as deluded fools, without offering up a errr rational explanation as to why there are so many otherwise sane, sensible, intelligent and pleasant believers.

I am religious. I believe God is all around us. One of the reasons why I love mountain biking is to be out in the middle of nature.
What I do not agree with is having to shepherded/herded into a building, having money taken from me, following rules set and doing as I am told for 2hours once a week.

Sorry and yes, I am religious but I wont compete with you to see who is the most religious.

Yeah why do atheists spend so much time having a go at the religious? Surely have better things to do

Because we're not busy sending talking bibles to Haiti, we've got plenty of free time on our hands 🙂

yes Hora, that's fine. Each to their own beliefs. But you don't spend your time on here berating people who's beliefs differ to yours- they're the group I was referring to.

I agree about "Football Fans".

Worshipping a group of blokes -from various regions of the world who play for often enormous wages- for a not-always-local club, until they move to another club for more money and then become figures of hate.

Abusing/hating worshippers of another (often local) team for no apparent reason. What is that all about?

Other groups that mystify me:

The Religious -Motivated by fear?

Royalists -Motivated by the need to feel inferior?

without offering up a errr rational explanation as to why there are so many otherwise sane, sensible, intelligent and pleasant believers.

Why would you assume that religion is necessary for these traits? Given that they exist in "non-believers" this would imply that there are other evolutionary reasons and has very little to do with religion.

yes Hora, that's fine. Each to their own beliefs. But you don't spend your time on here berating people who's beliefs differ to yours- they're the group I was referring to.

🙂

I also dont agree with the (sometimes) undercurrent of Islamiphobia on here either.

Elements of Sufism are beautiful.

On the Football fans. Although it does give some people some meaning in life. Imagine if your job is very mundane/basic. Following and supporting a team- gives you something to look forward to. I saw a lad last week who had 'Man United' tattooed on the inside of his arm. Those exact words. Not 'Man Utd' or 'Manchester Utd' but 'Man United'. Seemed alittle….camp?!

UKIP
ah…bless. BNP-lite. The party for neo-nazis who aren't prepared to admit it.

I agree about "Football Fans".

Worshipping a group of blokes -from various regions of the world who play for often enormous wages- for a not-always-local club, until they move to another club for more money and then become figures of hate.

Abusing/hating worshippers of another (often local) team for no apparent reason. What is that all about?
+approx 1 million.

Anyone who thinks polluting and destroying the planet is ok.

Completely incomprehensible.

So Finbar, you hate the pyramids? shapeist!

Damn ancient Egyptians!

Is that a pictorial guide to how to become a fat ****? 11 servings of bread & pasta and other processed crap? **** me. You'd need to knock a wall down to get me out of the house if I ate that shit.

Evangelist Agnostics / Athiests. Is banging on about there being NO god any worse than banging on about there being one. The fact is, there probably isn't one but I don't need somebody telling me to look at the Fjords of Norway as proof of his/her/its existence.

And a wee bit of tolerance of other people's views wouldn't go amiss.

Is that a pictorial guide to how to become a fat ****? 11 servings of bread & pasta and other processed crap? **** me. You'd need to knock a wall down to get me out of the house if I ate that shit.

I know, ridiculous isn't it? The NHS says

"Starchy foods such as bread, cereals, potatoes, pasta, maize and cornbread are a crucial part of a healthy diet. They contain carbohydrates, which are an essential source of energy. Starchy foods are fuel for your body.

In a healthy meal, starchy foods should make up around a third of everything we eat. That means we should base our meals on these foods.

Most of us need to include more starchy foods in our diets. Try having more wholewheat pasta or brown rice with your meal, and less sauce. Choose wholegrain cereals or porridge for breakfast.
"

+1 for the Football fans.

Typically the kind of people who would be mildly impressed at the birth of there healthy baby, or that that their fiancee said yes, both life changing amazing events, probably celebrated with a smile and a hug………..

……but get disproportionally excited about some overpaid nob they know only from the media, kicking a ball between a pair of posts, that has no relevence or effect on there lives, and yet they react like they've just won the lottery, shouting and screaming and the top of there voice or wanting to rip the head of the oponents suporters with as much hate as that you'd show somebody who just slapped your mother. WTF are they on???

barton admitting that there were 'other occasions' that he got away with.

Bet he choses his targets well.

Eeek Hora I agree with you!

Some atheists seem to be more obsessed with religion that some believers.

Some atheists seem to be more obsessed with religion that some believers.

Enough to carry out a suicide bombing or start a war?

Speaking as a lapsed footie fan, footie as a game is fundamentally good. You put kids in an open area together, they like to kick a ball around. It costs nothing. As the skill levels increase, the game has an intrinsic beauty that couples individual skills with team tactics. That's why it's so popular around the world.

One of the aspects of footie I find bizarre relates to the obligatory hatred between certain groups of fans. For eg, as a Citeh fan, I was supposed to hate Man U, Liverpool, Leeds whatever. But then when watching England, all this hatred is put to the side so that fans can collectively hate the Germans, etc etc.

I know plenty of otherwise intelligent people who know what's right and wrong, racism not to be tolerated blah blah blah, then introduce the concept of footie and it's ok to hate Leeds, Mancs, Scousers, Cockneys, whatever.

Jason Mountford does a good routine on this. It's bonkers.

If the godbotherers would just stick to bothering their gods quietly it would help. Far too many of them seem to believe they are morally superior to atheists and proclaim this loudly and religion in all its forms has such a negative effect on our society – from the refusal of Catholic hierarchy to allow condom use to prevent aids to the suicide bombers.

this is why people get so annoyed with godbothers. Religion is probably the most harmful force after capitalism

Some atheists seem to be more obsessed with religion that some believers.

Perhaps it has something to do with having it rammed down your throat almost from birth?

TJ in other people sharing their opinion too loudly shocker!

footie as a game is fundamentally good

Yes. It's the fanaticism about OTHER PEOPLE playing the game that is odd.

If the godbotherers would just stick to bothering their gods quietly it would help.

TJ, the vast majority of them do. In the last week how many of them have hassled you?

Religion is probably the most harmful force after capitalism

Most wars TJ are ultimately fought over individual power, rather than true religious or political fanaticism, as I'm sure you're aware.
I'd contend that Marxism and it's offshoot beliefs in the last 100 years have caused more harm than capitalism.