Have had it for more years than I can remember. Playing in bands for nearly 40 years, stupidly practicing with headphones on when I was youger and working on stage during gigs really did for my hearing. When the band is too loud now I find it difficult to deal with. Have it worse in one ear than the other so at least I can turn on one side and get some sleep if it's noisy outside.
tinnitus - ring ears
Had mine since February '89, saw Anthrax at the Hammersmith, ears rang for about a week, then got better, more gigs and now its there all the time.
I now wear earplugs for anything loud now, power tools, gigs, noisy factories etc.
I remember going to a Light of The World gig at Zero 6 in Southend in the very early 1980's. They had a soundsystem with speakers floor to ceiling and powerful enough to easily fill the Albert Hall. We ended up 10 ft from the R/H stack. My right ear was ringing loudly for the first day, then less so for a couple of days after. Stupid things you do when you are a teenager!
Last weekend I went to see Lissie at The Junction in Cambridge (she is awesome btw. One of the audience shouted, "what a fabulous pair of lungs" and double entendres aside, I cannot dispute this! She will make it big one day)
Take a look at the vid....
There are some Youtube vids of the actual gig at The Junction if you can be bothered.
Anyhow, although pretty loud, my ears weren't ringing much after, but my daughter said hers were. That's age for you I guess!! Now Lissie's rig was nowhere near as big and as loud as that of L.O.T.W's, but the Db's were as much as you would want in a venue that size.
I don't have a tinitus problem (thank ****), but these days, I always opt to be out of firing range of any speakers at gigs. The further back you get the better, or off to one side makes a big difference. You are also more likely to hear deep bass further back as this requires distance from the listener for the speakers to deliver what they are designed for.
Got my tinitus in about 1990 after a car crash and massive bump on the noggin.
Whilst I could be angry (crash not my fault) and upset, as I was the only one left alive, I am eternally thankful that I got away with so little, compared to the others.
Persistent loud noise will, according to the doc I spoke to a few years ago, induce tinnitus.
Daft as it may sound, the advice was "not to listen to it", it does help, but only a little.
+1 for earplugs.
Anyone have any custom made ear plugs? Just wondering how "descrete" they can be. All the ones I've seen/used so far stick out and are easily spotted a mile off.
Try Etymotic Research for "discrete" custom earplugs.
The music industry have been using them for years.
had mine for about 8 years after a sinus infection. See the British Tinnitus Association web site which has useful info.
I had/have tiniitus from a year in my early 20's as a rep, high speed motorway journeys with the window open and radio blasting wayfarers on...
Anyhooooo it bugged me really badly for about a year until I found out about this american doc who did double blind research with tinnitus sufferers and non tinnitus sufferers. He put them in soundproof rooms and played random noises at random levels, and found no correlation between sufferers and hearing npise, in fact lots of non sufferers reported noises when there were non and vice versa. So he came up wtih "retraining therapy" where he showed people this effect and convinced them that all people have ringing/noises it just some have been made aware of them due to damage or infection etc.
The upshot being that I essentially trained myself to filter it out and I can actually turn it on or off at will.
How? Embrace the noise, trey and love it, look for it, expect it, be happpy when you hear it, one morning you will wake up and it wont be there.
OK. If this all sounds like a load of crap, and maybe it is, but it worked for me, comprehensively. I'm a scientist, and really only respond to evidence, I read this guys research and the evidence was there, the rest was up to my own interpretation.
Get some Elacin ER15 best earplugs going for gigs concerts etc, trust me I'm an audiologist and my clients swear by them, otherwise risk being left with the ringing on a permanent basis.
OK its been 5 days now and I still have a high pitched "pinging" tone in my left ear, the one that was facing the speakers. I dont hear it during the day, but notice it when I try to go to sleep.
Thinking I need to go to the Docs?
Custom earplugs tend to look like classic 'deaf aids'. They do, however, rock! I have some custom Ultimate Ears earphones that I have never regretted getting. Going to a gig, you'll find that EAR (brand) musicians' ear plugs work well. You get all the sound with none of the pain and little of the damage. I recently got some of these after I lost a pair of EAR plugs.
That heller & bergman experiment is cited a bit. It also seems to be an experiment of its time. The stats seem rudimentary and in the table of results it looks like there's a difference in what the subjects 'heard' that isn't readily accounted for in the summary results. The conclusion seems fair though "Tinnitus, which is subaudible, may be a physiological phenomenon in an intact auditory apparatus.". ie Hearing impaired and unimpaired folks hear noises.
A friend of mine is a professional sound engineer and an accomplished guitarist. He was taught at a young age to always wear earplugs or good quality ear monitors. As it is his business he cannot afford to have his hearing deterIorate any more than the ageing process naturally does.
He wears some very expensive custome made ear monitors (£800 I think) which are natural coloured (matched to his skin colour!) and expensive earplugs at other times.
He always says that one severe moment of feedback could wreck his hearing enough to make it difficult to run his business and certainly hold his guitar playing back.
Standing next to the speaker stacks at a gig is stupid or playing in a band without ear protection equally so.
Phil Collins can now barely play the drums now he has such severe hearing damage and Pete Townsend has severe tinnitus which he puts down to an pyrotechnic explosion at a gig that went wrong and years of loud headphone use.
EDIT Phil Collins actually can't play due to hearing loss via a viral infection and a back problem. I'm sure I heard an interview with him that said it was due to loud drums but I may have been mistaken.
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