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  • STW collective medical knowledge: Anti-TNF-Alpha and Crohn's disease
  • Kit
    Free Member

    1) What do you good folks know about anti-TNF alpha drugs in relation to treament of Crohn's disease?

    2) What does fistulising mean?

    Most of the info online seems to be medical journals I can't get access to. Am asking because this is as it is suspected I have an external manifestation only of Crohn's and anti-TNF-alpha drugs have been suggested as a possible course of treatment, as have steroids. Interested in any info anyone has!

    Ta,
    Kit

    AndyP
    Free Member

    Fistulising = forming a fistula.
    Don't know about anti-TNF, sorry.

    Kit
    Free Member

    Grim, but fortunately not applicable.

    jimmy
    Full Member

    My missus is on anti-TNF but for arthritis / Anocholising Spondalitis (spelling??). Probably not relevant…

    I might be able to get access to journals through Uni still if you have any specifics – mail me if you'd like me to try.

    Kit
    Free Member

    Cheers jimmy, I'll drop you an email when I've done a bit more googling.

    hilldodger
    Free Member

    There's a comprehensive review here
    http://mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD006893/frame.html
    Also try looking on PubMed
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
    you may not be able to get the full articles but the summaries are free to non-subscribers

    Kit
    Free Member

    Cheers hilldodger, that first link looks good.

    ebygomm
    Free Member

    My missus is on anti-TNF but for arthritis / Anocholising Spondalitis (spelling??). Probably not relevant…

    Ankylosing Spondylitis and Crohn's are related somehow, my brother has both which isn't unusual. I'll ask him what he takes

    crikey
    Free Member

    Crohn's disease
    Infliximab has been shown to have benefits in severe active Crohn's disease.16 NICE were due to review around July 2008 but this has been delayed until early 2009.17

    NICE guidance18 recommends that the following criteria should be fulfilled:.

    •The Crohn's disease should be severe and active.
    •The Crohn's disease is refractory to other drugs (azathioprine, steroids, methotrexate etc) or patients have been intolerant of these drugs.
    •Patients for whom surgery is inappropriate.
    It is not recommended for fistulising Crohn's disease.

    From here;
    http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/Anti-tumour-Necrosis-Factor-Alpha-(anti-TNF-alpha).htm" class="bbcode-link">
    http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/Anti-tumour-Necrosis-Factor-Alpha-(anti-TNF-alpha).htm

    crikey
    Free Member
    mayan
    Free Member

    Ankylosing spondylitis and crohns both have excess TNF (tumor necrosis factor) as a major symptom in common.
    (Broadly speaking) TNF's normal function is good, it will identify and kill both viruses and potentially cancerous cells, however when there is an excess, it seems to get a bit bored and starts causing problems in normally healthy people.
    Anti TNF drugs serve to either inhibit (block) or "soak up" excess TNF.
    I dont know much about crohns, but do know a little bit about anti TNFs, let me know if you've got any specific questions.

    Im guessing jimmy's missus and ebygumm's brother are both using etanercept (enbrel)?
    but I doubt you'll be using this, as i dont think it's licenced (yet) for crohns.

    thejesmonddingo
    Full Member

    Look here http://www.nacc.org.uk/downloads/factsheets/drugInfliximab.pdf ,the site is good for information and support,I used to work in Gastro-enterology.Most departments have a specialist nurse,who will be good for info too.
    Ian

    thejesmonddingo
    Full Member

    Sorry,should point out,infliximab is most common anti-TNF used for Crohn's,the effects and side-effects are similar throughout the group.
    Ian

    foxyrider
    Free Member

    A good article (free) on TNF about Rh arthritis with some nice piccies 🙂

    Essentially its an antibody directed against TNF alpha – therefore the bodies immune system removes the molecule (cytokine) from the body like it would with a virus etc. thus reducing the concentration in teh blood system and tissues.

    fontmoss
    Free Member

    try cks.nhs.co.uk or gpnotebook for info

    Kit
    Free Member

    Excellent, thanks very much folks (knew you'd come good). A little reading over the weekend.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    just dont ask how they make the antibodies

    if you are a veggie it may cause some issues

    tonyg2003
    Full Member

    Hi TNFalpha. Tumour necrosis factor alpha (it's nothing to due with cancer in this instance it's just where it was first found) is a protein that is released during auto-immune reactions. The TNFalpha antibody basically takes TNFalpha out of circulation due to a standard immunue response reaction.

    It can have dramatic positive effects.I had a mate a few years ago who almost couldn't walk due to Rh arthritis and he was back to normal almost in a few days. Amazing really. No idea what it does for Crohn's – sorry.

    foxyrider
    Free Member

    is a protein that is released during auto-immune reactions

    but also is part of the normal immune reactions in the body 😉 just to clarify !

    tyger
    Free Member

    Hi Kit, the National Association for Cronhs and Colitis (NACC) is very informative and helpful and should be able to help you with info and research. You may need to become a member (this is fairly cheap) if you haven't already done so. You can also write to their magazine to request to be contacted by others in a similar position to yourself – see the above link from thejesmonddingo

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