is it any good for trail riding, ie not too much drag etc
thinking about one as the e13 lg1 is mucho ££££

No complaints with mine and i’ve put plenty of miles on it.

good enough for me at half the price for effectively the same design (bar moving lower part)

Mine is good, never drop a chain, fairly quiet.
Had to ahem…’adjust’ the backplate a little to get it sweet.

I have, and know a few others who have broken the top cage on the plasma, for the same money get one of these: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=50664 , guides are much stronger than the superstar ones, slight weight penalty but much stronger.

No probs with mine either. It’s on a 1×10 hardtail that gets a bit of DH + jump abuse as well as general trail stuff. A little bit of drag/noise but no worse than the two other designs on my other bikes.

the ls1 looks good, not bothered about weight so much (im 13st!) there is only a 60g saving on the light one so not bad!
cheers.

It’s absolutely fine- basically what you’d expect, a solid product but not as polished as the competition (which cost 3 times as much)

so on their ordering form i need ‘iscg'(im guessing thats old iscg?) back plate not ‘iscg 05’ for my ’12 5 frame?

Yeah pretty sure all the Fives are ISCG old.