You stupid sods are obviously missing the entire point which is that we don't share the same definition of what 'right' is.
That's not the point at all. The point is I don't seem to get any variation in flavour regardless of how I treat the mocha pot - so how do you end up with scalded coffee to class it as different and requiring careful process?
I do, however, happily accept, and indeed encourage, your right to over-complicate matters.
Would Molgrips care to enlighten us on the correct way to boil an electric kettle full of water too?
I agree with Molgrips. You lot clearly don't understand what good coffee tastes like.
Entering this debate late, water boils at 95° for me, so I'm sorted. 
Just got into coffee myselfover the last couple of years (since I've been living out in France!). Starting to think I'd like something to make some decent stuff at home, but not sure what. My other half doesn't like coffee at all, so looking for something cheap and minimal fuss to make a cup for myself now and then. I like espresso, black with a bit of sugar. Nothing milky (bleeurgh!).
Thinking a wee stove-top is probably the best solution.
Another late entry to the thread, said it before and I'll say it again....
Jura FTW (see page 1 of thread) and
not cheap but it gives a fantastic Coffee EVERY time at the touch of a button.
Well thanks for not getting offended when I posted a mardy post there. Work are trying to suck ALL the life out of me now instead of just most of it.
The point is I don't seem to get any variation in flavour regardless of how I treat the mocha pot - so how do you end up with scalded coffee to class it as different and requiring careful process?
If coffee is scalded then it tastes bitter. I thought this was widely known, I've experienced it certainly. As a summary, Wiki has this to say:
Almost all methods of preparing coffee require the beans to be ground and mixed with hot water for long enough to extract the flavor, but without boiling for more than an instant; boiling develops an unpleasant "cooked" flavor.
So the temperature of water is important. As it is with tea.
In the case of the Moka pot, the heat used also affects the speed of transit of the water through the coffee, which also affects the end product. I like to have the coffee just trickling down the spout, not spurting.
I like to have the coffee just trickling down the spout, not spurting.
Is this a euphemism?
Are you really worried about something else entirely and you're just 'transferring' that towards coffee...hmmmmm?
my face is still waiting to be moisturised 
Lol 
Still waiting for my espresso
Ok, so it's not an indoor solution to making coffee (although, come to think of it, why not..?) but this guy's quest for a good, repeatable cup of coffee on the go is worth reading 
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/30/perfecting-my-travel.html
Staying in a rented appartment in Paris this week and lo and behold they have a Nespresso machine. Pretty good, makes nice coffee quickly and conveniently.
I suspect we've been waiting in different locations.
Where would you like your next espresso?
Simonofbarnes gave me a good one last night, really strong
iDave - Member
I suspect we've been waiting in different locations.Where would you like your next espresso?
same place - where were you!!
I cannot deny it
same place - where were you!!
That's where I was. Couldn't you smell the coffee? More creamy and richer than sfb's.
Same time next week?
go on then
splendid, just remind me where i was waiting and at what time?
More creamy and richer than sfb's.
she takes it black...
The Rancilio is a firm favourite on coffee forums
http://www.hasbean.co.uk/products/Rancilio-Silvia-Espresso-Machine-%28New-Model%29.html
I have a Isomac Venus Coffee Machine
http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/products.php?cat=53
brought from coffee-bay in surbiton
Highly reccoment the shop!
It is true you need a decent grinder.
mine has a crema 'head' 
- like it should. You're not using mellow birds are you sfb?
You're not using mellow birds are you sfb?
freshly roasted Java beans ground on the spot...
wow - clearly you rock
... and roll ?
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