as in the title show me your sugar + bikes and state front and rear travel settings please.
thwang

My wife's got a Sugar 1 that she never rides. Does that help?
It's a nice bike anyway

I was googling old Sugars this morning, I miss mine.
I reckon they'd make great bikes with a modern upgrade. DezB that piccy brings back fond memories….of the bike not your wife 😐

Just retired my Sugar 1 frame (as pictured above) to the garage wall. The back end was getting a bit waggly. I think BETD offer a needle bearing mod on the main pivot, which would revive it considerably.

Oldgit – you're right I had a fox rear shock, manitou minutes and XT discs and it was great. Only problem was that the original SID rear shock was an odd size, meaning that putting on the nearest standard length shock (about 5mm shorter) slackened the head angle quite a bit.

Ben

Edit: To satisfy the OP: rear about 65mm, front was windable between 100mm and 130mm

I would have put on a decent light 100mm fork, discs and carbon'd it up, deffo flat bars and some fast tyres. Rapid bikes they were.

Well, I had what I had and not the budget for more!

The Manitous are firm and when run at 100mm the thing flew!

I really miss my Sugar 2. Best handling & best fitting bike I've had.

I meant that's what I would have done if I had one again, not what I thought you should have done.
I sold mine for a carbon NRS that was good as well.

OG – I know 🙂

I transferred the bit to a 456 for a bit of a change, but it appears to have similar rear end travel!!

thanks guys i was thinking 100mm r7s or sids

I think R7s would be fine, I had Scarebs on mine in the end and I think R7s are their successors.

Had a Sugar2+, great bike, handling was probs best I've ever had,
but it "munched thru frame bushes" as fast as…
Spoke to Mr F at "mayhem" and he said Bushes weren@t an issue in California !!!!
But did get New Frame under warrranty thanks to him.(And Fisher/Trek UK)