Im thinking of getting one of these, has anyone ridden or owned one? It seems perfect for what i want it for.
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Scott genius LT, anyone got one?????
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It seems perfect - it seem too good to be true, even - but given the experience a lot fo friends had with the Ransom, I'd be steering well clear of Scott's proprietary shocks.
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I've had a genius 20 for 3 years. Pretty good bike in a lot of respects - the ability to change the rear suspension from the handlebars is a real plus. Extremely good on the downhill.
The only issue I had was that I had a lot of minor niggles - creaking seatpost, gear problems, chainsuck, and twice I bent the top pin which the shock pivots on - it just seemed to work its way loose. I'm not the best at maintaining bikes and this one perhaps needed a little more attention than others
Would I buy one again - probably not.
Do I regret buying this one - No.Posted 4 months ago # -
I should probably point out that I am completely biased but, I have one and they are fantastic. Wind down the forks and stick it in traction mode and you really can climb it (ok, not as well as dedicated XC machine but better than a 150-160mm bike of equivalent weight and suspension design) but it really comes alive when you point it downwards. 180mm up front and 185mm at the back, nice stiff frame, reasonably slack (66.3deg in low chip position) - you can push it really hard and it just begs for more. Incredible fun.
I live in Switzerland and as an Alps/all mountain/enduro bike its so perfect. All day lift assisted enduro sessions are a blast and its my fitness that gives out before its climbing abaility. For the UK I think the market is a bit more limited but if your local trails are rough and steep and require pedalling up then this could be just the ticket.
Shocks are vastly improved from the old Ransom shocks by the way with it being the Equalizer 3, the latest incarnation.
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Couldn't get a worse shock placement for UK conditions.
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Pretty sure a Cube Stereo shock is in a worse place, and it's a pull shock so less exposed to mud. A mate has one and loves it, tracloc system is superb. I'd think about getting one, but I'd probably get a 140ish bike for simplicity and I don't feel I need the extra travel and the weight that brings with it.
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and it's a pull shock so less exposed to mud.
The seals are still going to get caked in mud no matter how much of the shock shaft is showing.
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As do most shock seals. Still going to be exposed less of the time.
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As do most shock seals. Still going to be exposed less of the time.
I think you will find there is nothing in it exposure wise. The shock is continuously moving when riding and only covers the shaft when no one is on it.
The point is, the shock being in the direct line of fire of shit from the back wheel is definitely worse for UK riding than a shock positioned inside the main frame that hardly gets muddy at all.
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Good point well made.
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I've got a normal (not LT) 2009 Scott Genius, and really enjoy it.
I've had very few problems. Top pin on the shock did once come lose, but I noticed it knocking long before it became a problem. Bit of threadlock and it's not been a problem since.
The shock placement really isn't a problem. There's a plastic shield that protects the shock shaft and seals from mud coming from the back wheel.
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There's a plastic shield that protects the shock shaft and seals from mud coming from the back wheel.
What he said. I've taken mine out in some pretty filthy conditions and never had a problem with mud ingress into the shock. Its not something I consider to be a problem, I think forks get a far worse deal as far as mud goes.
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I should add that the Twinloc not only reduces real wheel travel but also changes the dynamic geometry. In traction mode it has a higher spring rate and so sags less, sitting higher in the travel when climbing. This, combined with winding down the forks gives you steeper head and seat angles and brings your weight more over the front which is obviously better for climbing. It works a treat.
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i have a 2005 genius and NEVER had a problem with the rear shock being in the line of fire, it still rides like new and is so much fun to ride up hill and down dale, yeah its an old girl but keeps up pretty well with the newer bikes that i ride with and it looks sweet as well. i say go for it you WILL love it.
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I had a 2008 genuis and the front triangle broke after 18m and a year later the rear chainstay broke. the front one was replaced under warranty but it was out of warranty for the rear one. It rode well, but I found it very stiff.
I changed for a five, and while it is heavier, I personally think it climbs better as it is more compliant. That said I am very definitely a weekend warrior
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You can absolutely destroy the descents on an LT. Feels quite sluggish up hill compared to my trail Genius (30lbs vs 24lbs), but holy cow, its just as planted through the techy steep descents as my Voltage FR.
If I built another, I'd think about the 160mm 36 talas vs the 180mm, but as is, it does exactly what its supposed to.
So, if you like ripping down but also pedaling up.. ideal bike!
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Thanks all for your comments. I ride trail centres, night riding and also freeride so that's why I'm looking at this. I have a zesty and a Froggy and like the idea of a do
It all bike.Posted 4 months ago # -
Scott bearings are good too, a certain Scott rider/employee was telling me his Genius bearings lasted 2 years, pretty good for daily riding in the Peak District.
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Thanks all for your comments. I ride trail centres, night riding and also freeride so that's why I'm looking at this. I have a zesty and a Froggy and like the idea of a do
It all bike.There is no way one bike is better than two. I would stick with what you've got.
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There is no way one bike is better than two. I would stick with what you've got.
You can't use them both at once though can you
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i Had a LT10 last year, perfect bike, loved it no issues with the ahock, its upside down so no more dirt gets on the seal, an dont know what mud you ride in that destroys seals, fork seals get a soaking every ride and are ok arnt they?
ive sold my lt now as i try and replace my bike every year and what have i ordered in its place?.....
well 2012 genius LT this has been the only time in 15 years other than my gt rts team in 1995 that i have ever had the same bike twice, and this year it comes with a stealth dropper seatpost, cool (must remember to keep the mud of the post or it will corrode the seals)Posted 4 months ago # -
i try and replace my bike every year
Why?
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new bike every year, keeps it fresh, my bike gets some real hard work so while its a year old and still in good condition its easy to sell and i keep up with new kit,
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