the cheapest I've ever found an aluminium frame was US$33 factory price in China. Plain gauge, basic, painted.
oh and baking pies in the same oven
Just what I've heard.
Poor defence for repeating rubbish.
When I was little I got told there were pixies at the bottom of the garden.
My lad is riding around on the $33 frame right now. Passed a CEN test. I didn't buy any.
Taiwan frames are at least double that for the most basic ones.
Wait, are you talking single units or bulk? I was talking bulk.
Wait, are you talking single units or bulk? I was talking bulk.
Please - you are making yourself look silly.
$33 painted price based on 500pc order. I'd consider that a reasonble quantity and wouldn't expect significant discount . Jigging/fixtures were chargeable seperately/in house standard so of no consequence.
I am? Wouldnt want that. 
I just heard they were $9 from a very reliable source. Just you getting so upset about what I said made me doubt it. Maybe you arent wrong then..
Maybe you arent wrong then..
Tell your mate who can get 'em for $9, I'll have 500. You sell me them for $18.
If you can sort it, I'll send you the money.
LOL. I think that your reliable source isn't very reliable...
Back to the original bit of kit. It is very useful to have an anti chain-drop device on a road bike. I've certainly got one on mine, given I used to get chain drop (and got a chewed stay) on my old bike and wanted to look after the new one. Is different to on a mountain bike where it might be the vibrations dropping the chain - with a road bike it's when shifting rings, or possible if you back pedal a bit when in big ring and big cogs that the chain tends to come off. Not quite sure why you don't get the same problem on mountain bikes, but you don't - I'd guess the big gap between rings on a compact probably doesn't help (though I got it on a standard chainset).
Anyway, those of us with round tubes use something that clamps onto the seat tube. I have a Deda Fang - Jump Stop is also common. However even with my very conventional looking round tubed bike the bottom of the seat tube is flared, which meant I had to file down one side of the clamp a bit and use a longer bolt to get it to fit. Loads of bikes now don't have anything like a round tube here, and people with these still want a device. Lots of discussion over on weight weenies about similar home-made devices which pro teams have been using for a while.
Yes it might be expensive, but it's a small price to pay to prevent damage to a £1k+ carbon frame. Of course you're not obliged to buy one - I'm sure there will be plenty who will though. Personally if I was getting a new frame with non-round tubes I might grumble about the price, but I'd buy one if there was no cheaper option (I'd guess somebody else might come out with something if there's enough demand to make it worth while).
For $9 i think you are talking about steel frames. 2 years ago i saw a advert for $6 a frame for crappy steel frames by the container load. Wouldnt happen now as steel costs alot more.
Doubt they were any good!
As brant says ali frames start around $60 for a nice quality one in Taiwan, and upwards for features and better tubing. Cheaper stuff from china and vietnam.
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