having tried MANY different puncture protection and prevention methods, the best thing i have come up with is to get good at taking tyres on and off and MTFU
Including tubeless? If you're getting a lot of punctures and tubeless with sealant doesn't improve things you're a klutz.
Or maybe just maybe, tubeless isn't all its cracked up to be?
Oh crap, I've thought outside the whole marketing bollocks box, am I going to die?
Or maybe just maybe, tubeless isn't all its cracked up to be?
Well it's 'cracked up' to prevent punctures becoming flats, you think it makes the situation worse I take it?
Oh crap, I've thought outside the whole marketing bollocks box
What marketing bollocks is there around 'ghetto' tubeless?
Well it's 'cracked up' to prevent punctures becoming flats, you think it makes the situation worse I take it?
I don't think it makes the situation worse, it tries to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place. Tubes will last forever in your tyre unless you get a puncture and its easy to change tyres. Tubeless tyres need topping up with gloop every 6 or so months because it dries out and it makes changing tyres an arse ache.
What marketing bollocks is there around 'ghetto' tubeless?
I meant tubeless in general, it's supposed to stop flats unless there's a rip and as some people have stated it doesn't work.
What's a puncture? Been running Stans NoTubes for years now and no punctures whatsoever. Even had a huge nail go in, seal instantly and then found it months later when I changed tyres because I heard something going round inside the wheel. I'll never use tubes ever again.
+1 for R.Lepcha
it tries to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place.
Feel free to carry on having to stop to fix punctures if you insist. I'll carry on not getting them with tubeless.
What's a puncture? Been running Stans NoTubes for years now and no punctures whatsoever
That must be just marketing bollox 
So getting punctures isn't "broken"?Feel free to carry on having to stop to fix punctures if you insist. I'll carry on not getting them with tubeless.
Clearly tubeless doesn't completely solve this issue though does it, evident from other posters.
That must be just marketing bollox
Clearly tubeless doesn't completely solve this issue though does it, evident from other posters.
Some people dont have punctures in tubes for years.
It makes it a huge amount better than with tubes.
I cant see how it does, it still doesn't completely solve the problem so why try fix something with something that doesn't completely fix the problem?
Seems a waste of time and effort.
yet he's just as much of a luddite as you.
I don't think he is, he doesn't want to change to tubeless as it doesn't solve the issue completely and it would be too much effort.
Anyway you keep running your tubeless wheelset and I'll keep running my tubes, I'll laugh at you when your stood next to me on the trail putting a tube in your tyre and getting gunky latex shit all over the place while I just whip the tube out and put another in.
Eat my trail dust.
Tubeless might be great, and I'm sure it works brilliantly for you. Problem is, It doesn't completely solve the issue, improve it, it might do, but to go through all the hassle, and the ballache of when you do get a puncture with them, there not a good solve.
There more hassle than there worth and for the money, i think a schwalbe punture protection is likely to be more affective.
Your comment seems slightly flawed to me. I agree with R. Lepecha, whats the point in going through the hassle, in order for such minimal gain, people on the forum have stated Tubeless isn't a complete fix!
I suppose the true answer is get a Co2 pump a spare tube, and sort it in seconds!
And "I'll carry on not getting them with tubeless"
I'll carry on laughing when i see you trying to lube your tyres up :')
I cant see how it does
it still doesn't completely solve the problem so why try fix something with something that doesn't completely fix the problem?
I'll laugh at you when your stood next to me on the trail putting a tube in your tyre and getting gunky latex shit all over the place while I just whip the tube out and put another in
There more hassle than there worth and for the money, i think a schwalbe punture protection is likely to be more affective
or them puncture tape things, which basically act as the same thing but let you use any tyre but you get the idea!
for such minimal gain
I suppose the true answer is get a Co2 pump a spare tube, and sort it in seconds!
Because it gets pretty close - a lot closer than anything else. I presume you'd also dismiss heart transplants as not worth bothering with because some people still die, low energy bulbs not worth bothering with because they still use some electricity, and education not worth bothering with because some people still can't make objective judgements about stuff?
Punctures ain't a matter of life and death.
Bulbs save money, tubeless costs money.
Education is needed to produce a product that solves the puncture issue completely.
Foam tyre inserts anyone?
Plus, i'd ather not fiddle with my rims and "Bodge" them to go tubeless,
or buy a set of rims primarily because there tubeless.
I'm just not a fan of the tubeless idea, especially when they do go wrong 
The puncture tapes look good.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7254939.stm
Lets start a company? 
I'm not a fan of punctures. Good luck with your alternative "solutions" which don't completely solve the problem - and don't even do as well as tubeless - yet seemingly are worth bothering with.
you have not mentioned the reason for your puncture (or if you have i missed it)
If a snake bite then tubeless would probably have been ok
The puncture tapes look good.
And are super cheap!
agree to disagree?
yet seemingly are worth bothering with.
Damn sight cheaper and less messy though.
It was a blowout, the rear tyre came down hard!
Plus with tubeless, the alfine means that if you take the wheel off, tensioning it again is a right nightmare! With tubes, you can get them a tube where it just loops round
+1 Tubes
why do you need to take a wheel out when tubless? i don't have to. Puncture that done seal can be fixed with the push through sticky string things.
What are these tubes you are on about that can be fitted without removing a wheel?
Damn sight cheaper and less messy though.
Bothy bikes sel tem!
they are super cheap too!
In that paticular instance, nothing would have prevented my puncture!
how do you not end up with a lump where the ends overlap?
somehow, you don't?
There really quite affectively, and as long as your not moronic and put the tube in using common sense, there a damm good idea
furry muff
In that paticular instance, nothing would have prevented my puncture!
I can assure you, it wasn't a pinch. I took off and smashed onto a sharp rock protruding. To be honest it flatspotted the rim.
So you put a hole in the tyre?
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