How do you do THIS - one place close to the lens (statue) and one part far away (part of cliff) in focus, and the rest blurry?
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Photogs - how do you do this?
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Posted 1 year ago #
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It would have to be two exposures stitched together to get that effect.
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Depth of field is what allows you to keep the subject in focus and the remainder blurred. To maximise the effect you need a f number as small as your lens allows and zooming will add to the effect.
It will also depend on the distance between you and he subject as well as the zoom you are using. If you have an iPhone the iDoF Calc app is useful for showing what happens when you change various parameters.
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looks sh!t but i would say photoshop.
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you can't do it with a normal lens. It's either done in photoshop processing or (and this is *very* unlikely) some kind of specialist lens of attachment that allows for two different focuses.
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I agree with RS
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yep, very bad photoshopping
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Looks like crappy over-use of gaussian blur to me.
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I'm guessing the photog wanted the statue in focus with the background out of focus and could not achieve it 'in camera' so...
Looks like crappy over-use of gaussian blur to me.
I'd agree...DrJ - if you have PS and want to try similar
Open your image in PS
Create a new layer.
Apply Gausian blur to the new layer, adjusting strength of the blur to taste & add a layer mask.
Select 'Brush' tool with 'colour' set to black. Use the brush to 'erase' the blur to reveal the detail you want to highlight.
If you take it too far turn the 'colour' to white and paint the blur back in......
'Flatten' the layers and Save As...It's a technique I use quite a bit on wedings and portrait shots - only the blur is a lot more subtle..! I use the brush to 'paint' the eyes and teeth back in - ladies love to see their skin in lovely and soft, they don't like blurry eyes.....
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It looks god awful.
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DrJ, how did you guys get on yesterday on you Dubh Loch ride? I was with Sanny when we rode this. http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/jocks-road-what-are-you-waiting-for
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@mcmoonter - got me mixed up with someone else
- looks like an awesome ride, though!! 
As for the picture, I like it!
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LOL agreeing with all the above - it is shite Photoshopping. My mum could do better.
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I'd say its been done on post, and not very well either.
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If you have an iPhone the iDoF Calc app
or you could press the button on the camera ?
(and this is *very* unlikely) some kind of specialist lens of attachment that allows for two different focuses.
I hope you have the patent Julian ??
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I think it's done with a tilt/shift lens (or with a plate camera). The photographer has got the plane of focus running from front-right to back-left.
By doing this he has both isolated the statue against an out of focus background and has given a sense of depth and context by having part of the background in focus.
I think it's a very good photo.
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They used the same effect on Sherlock last night. I noticed it because it looked so bad.
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The difficult bit is looking at an Anthony Gormley installation and not puking, shaking with rage or hitting it.
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or hitting it.
followed by a visit to A&E ? Also therapy for anger issues...
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simonfbarnes - Member
I hope you have the patent Julian ??
I remember seeing it in a Jeff Goldblum film (Mr Frost I think?) over twenty years ago, so not a new idea and not impossible, just highly unlikelydonald - Member
I think it's done with a tilt/shift lens (or with a plate camera). The photographer has got the plane of focus running from front-right to back-left.
By doing this he has both isolated the statue against an out of focus background and has given a sense of depth and context by having part of the background in focus.
I think it's a very good photo.
Not tilt-shift as that still has one plane of focus, whereas that photo has two planes of focus - the statue and the cliffs. GLad you like it, I don't but the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff
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Cokin do a filter (P111 from memory) which split the focus, crude and a bit naff, but would give you a simular effect.
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Found it here you go:
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-cokin-p111-split-field-1-filter/p1000660
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or you could press the button on the camera ?
Which button is that simon?
(I like the PhotoBuddy app on the iPhone. DoF calculator + sunrise/sunset times and various other useful gadgets)
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Not tilt-shift as that still has one plane of focus, whereas that photo has two planes of focus - the statue and the cliffs. GLad you like it, I don't but the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff
*Could* be tilt-shift, there is one plane of focus, it's just almost parallel with the axis of the lens, which makes me question whether its possible to get the plane of focus THAT far away from normal (no experience). If not, it's going to be photoshopped and it's not a great result, but I like the concept.
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Which button is that simon?
probably the DoF preview button that most SLR's have.
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And just to confirm it is possible, this was done with a homemade tilt-shift lens apparently:
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And just to confirm it is possible, this was done with a homemade tilt-shift lens apparently:
There's only one plane of focus there, where the boy is
two definite planes of focus there. No link between the two that I can see. There's a definite blurred line between the statue and the cliffs.
In fact,looking at the lighting and so on, especially around the statue's head, it's quite obviously photoshopped in the method described by marsdenman, above
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probably the DoF preview button that most
SLR's have.Unless you combine that with some walking backwards and forwards with a tape measure and different lenses then it doesn't really do a great job of what Mintman was suggesting.
i.e. clearly illustrating how f-number, subject distance and focal length alter the DoF.
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That is one method you could assume, yes. But to me the mountain is nearly parallel to the sensor plane and to get THAT short a DoF at that distance would require a very odd lens, you'd almost undoubtedly get the entire rest of the cliff in focus with any normal lens.
But I can still see one plane, you can't see the valley floor so you can't see it progress toward the statue. The exposure around the head is easily raised with dodging to improve contrast to the background but done badly so looks a bit odd.
But whatever method, I think this is the effect they were looking for (follow the statues gaze).
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And just to confirm it is possible, this was done with a homemade tilt-shift lens apparently:
but it looks horrible
I'd have cropped out all that fuzzy stuff. IMO intentional depth of field effects are a shabby trick best avoided.
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What does that image show? I can't see what you;re trying to emphasise with the lines you've added
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Badly photoshopped, the bolt on his back is in focus, but so is the front of his face. Therefore I would expect to see a lot more of the right side of the statue in focus if it was real.
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Or... you can use a split field filter, which is basically half a magnifying lens placed over the end of the camera lens. Gives a sharp near focus in one half of the field of view while the lens is focused normally at or near infinity.
They used to be popular in the 1970s, but now look a bit sh1te.However, as the statue is on Formby beach, not up a mountain, that'd have to be some pretty special filter...
EDIT: Oh, there really is a rusty bloke up a mountain? Shoulda read the OPs link first...
Looks like that overdone lens blur/faux miniature thing that everyone is doing now. Completely unneccesary IMHO.
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I'm a bit unsure.... But I think it's been taken on a large format camera - the plane of focus (achieved by moving the back of the camera around) can be set in any direction you like - in this case, through the back of the statue's head and on toward the far cliff.
The odd light around the statue's head is dodgy photoshopping, but I think it's just where the photographer has used the dodge tool.
So there is only one focal plane - running out through the image. I used LF cameras a lot at uni and saw similar strange focal effects from studes messing about with camera backs.
IMHO
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nbt - the CK is trying to show the potential plane of focus if a tilt/shift had been used, resulting in both near & far objects being in focus.
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