This one I find staggering.
This guy clearly must have plotted out his entire cycling future from behind his PC.
He has obviously looked into kit and events and what's required and decided that buying a Pinarello and booking a place on this years Etape a good idea.
However don't you think most people would have actually tried riding a bike before doing all that? no not this guy.
The way he was talking pre ride made me think I was about to come home with no legs.
Wrong. He was walking on the first gentle slope out of town.
That was three weeks ago when the sun was shining, not seen him since.
We didn't treat him badly or take the piss, more a case of WTF after he peeled off at about three miles.
Good luck to him anyway.
Though he probably went off to buy a Ducatti so he could race Superbikes.
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Only fair to mock this guy.
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I feel bad.....but come on
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at least he's got a bike that should last him for all his future adventures?
(guessing so.. i dont know road bikes.. but sounds more fancy than an appollo from halfords which i started riding on)
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Oh dear... On a Forum years ago a guy asked for bike advice (think it was a games forum) he ended up buying a yellow turner to go downhilling on. He talked of how he got up in the wee hours to phone Mr Turner himself, he became an overnight expert on tyres and he ordered the most expensive fork and wheels his LBS could get and bragged about his £6000 build. He started lecturing me on riding styles and mocking my ride. He didn't mention he hadn't ridden a bike since highschool and 2 weeks later the Turner was on eBay. A few weeks later he was buying a car to go drifting in.
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Hmmm... ATGNI... At least they keep the 'pre loved/minimal use' market going
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What size was the Pinarello?
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I should add that this little group I ride with occasionally is what you might call a feeder club. There's always a smiling new face willing to come out with no idea of what to expect. And as these aren't training rides we tailor the route to suit. We'll sit with them and perhaps press on with an obvious stop ahead, but they always leave wanting to come back.
This guys face could have removed paint.Posted 1 year ago # -
What size was the Pinarello?
Couldn't tell you, I don't know my top end kit. It was Campag with carbon chainset levers etc, but I don't know what it was. They all look the same to me.
Der... didn't read that properly totally missed out the word size.
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I think people who's memories of bike ridign as a kid don't include the fact it was hard work don't realise how much effort you have to put in to maintain any sort of pace.
The guy should clearly have gone out on his own first but he's had a bit of a tough lesson on the 'How hard can it be?' side of things.
Personally, I hope he's gone off to do a bit of training and wil lbe back rather than giving up altogether.
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Personally, I hope he's gone off to do a bit of training and wil lbe back rather than giving up altogether
Me to as I can't even afford second hand Pinarellos.
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Oldgit
More common than you think.
Some people really believe that they can get fit through osmosis.
You can see them at most gyms ,swimming pools and bike shops.
They are masters at avoiding effort.
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Couldn't someone have stayed with him and gone on a gentle spin to offer encouragement?
On our Tuesday night ride (mtb) we often have newbies out, they invariable struggle but they don't get dropped, we wait with them or someone rides/walks alongside offering encouragment.
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I think you're being a bit harsh on the poor guy, Oldgit. So he's gone out and blown loads of money on a bike way past his abilities? That'd be just like me and Josephine, my Orange 5 then.
Bet I'm not the only one on here who could say that either. He's come out on a group ride and been blown off the back almost immediately? Hmmm... I know from my own painful experience over the years that thinking you're 'bike fit' and being 'bike fit' aren't the same. It's one thing to go out and do the miles yourself, at a pace you're comfortable with and easing up or stopping when your body demands a rest. It's a completely different thing to go out on a group ride where the pace and rests are dictated by someone else.
Even if the guy's a bit of a plonker, he's still someone who wants to share our hobby so should be encouraged rather than mocked, don't you think?
Beagy, over biked, over the hill, over weight and over a mile off the back on most group rides.
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fasthaggis - Member
Some people really believe that they can get fit through osmosis.
You can see them at most gyms ,swimming pools and bike shops.
They are masters at avoiding effort.fasthaggis - Member
OldgitMore common than you think.
You see peeps on the machines at gyms reading... How on earth do you read if you're going balls out on something (i.e. training with effect)?
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You see peeps on the machines at gyms reading... How on earth do you read if you're going balls out on something (i.e. training with effect)?
Um.... if you are aiming for weight loss then I don't think the idea is to go 'balls out' is it?
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Is there any other way...? If you've bandwidth left to read you're not trying hard enough
You're not a closet gym reader are you Grum?
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Nah, I never go to the gym.
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You see peeps on the machines at gyms reading... How on earth do you read if you're going balls out on something (i.e. training with effect)?
Better that they're on the machines reading and getting some exercise than sat on their backsides doing nowt. Some people just want to keep active. What on earth does "training for effect" mean anyway?
Good on that bloke with the fancy bike. If'd he bought a supermarket special some of us would be mocking him too. If he's got money to spend let him spend it.
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Me neither, it full of ****ts reading books
'Training for effect' is a phrase I just made up (can't you tell?). It means trying hard enough to make a difference rather than sitting posing and poncing just enough to impress your colleagues via your Bannatyne's or whatever membership and/or personal trainer. HTH
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they stumble into spinning sometimes. it's really quite funny.
how they don't get the impression sooner that they are in the wrong place when a load of lycra clad people are pouring with sweat and having 96% of a heart attack every 20 seconds i don't know.
still some of them are quite hot looking in their gym bunny outfits with iphones strapped to their arms. beats looking at the local CC vet's bums
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Hora ?
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I think if any of us wanted to try something new, like road riding, we'd buy some cheap £200 road bike and give it a go. If however you're a millionaire, blowing 6 grand on a pinarello isn't going to matter, so why not? If he's not stupidly rich, then he's a bit of an idiot.
Booking a place on the etape is a bit selfish, as that could've gone to someone who actually could ride it. I think a lot of decent cyclists miss out on things like that from places being taken by people who will get swept up in the first hour.
All just ignorance really, but how else is he going to learn?
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we should set up a before bike purchase police unit!
anyone any ideas on the criteria?
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NICK +1
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we should set up a before bike purchase police unit!
anyone any ideas on the criteria?A jury made up of "12 STWers, good and true" will assess and pass judgement afetr a series of probing questions and a lap of the red route at a trail centre (or in the case of roadies, a lap of the Fred Whitton route).
If said newbie can keep up with the awesome Gods of Riding on here (you know, the ones who average 23mph or who smoke DHers whilst riding their rigid steel singlespeed) then said newbie will be issued with a formal invitation to wave their willy on STW.
Does that just about cover it?
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Surely there should be a multiple choice tyre quiz?
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They must also like coffee, have strong views on cars and car tyres and be neither mysonginist nor sexist...
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I say - how dare a newbie buy anything else than a Boardman HT!
if your a millionaire and spend more than a grand - your simply a fat flash git and deserve everything that comes your way!
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+1 Nick and Beagleboy.
I expect we all buy the best bike we can afford and/or can justify, even as newbies. If this guy can afford to drop 6k on his first bike then fair play to him.
Rather than take the p!ss and drop him I'd be giving him encouragement - if he eats a bit of humble pie and enjoys the ride enough to continue then that's a win for the cycling community. If he's still a knob then at least you've been friendly and might get first dibs on his bike when he decides to sell it cheap.
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I - for one - would find everything a lot easier if the above mentioned STW Jury could just issue a list of STW approved items/clothing/devices - shorts, jerseys, hoovers, washing machines, coffee machines & the like - it would save me so much having to scour these forums for the correct ones
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I've had the opposite experience to oldgit, guy turns up on a s-works sl3 tarmac, carbon wheels etc, guy looks fit, all his kit is immaculate, we set off, he goes straight on the front and stays there all day, coming back he ramps the speed up to 25 mph, I say to him was that hurting you, he say's not really, fair play to him, been out a couple more times as well, nice fella.
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must be a loser who spends all his time training (get a life - theres more to life than bikes)
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How much the guy paid for his bike isn't relevant, as said he could be loaded so why not buy a good bike even for rides around the park.
But why join a group untill your at least up to speed a little bit
What did he think was going to happen !! Even the most social rides require a certain abillity. I must have ridden for at least a year before I was confident enough to ride with other people, for some it seems like its the first step.Posted 1 year ago # -
TBF we didn't blow him out at all, far from it. I suggested that as we had two newcommers we take it easy 34 or 39 ring steady. Within a mile he must have been 1/2 mile back. So we re grouped. That went on and on until it became silly, and we didn't have lights!
It was way under ten miles before we put him on a route home.This isn't a club as such, it was sort of set up under the cycling town thingy. Si if he had checked he would have seen there is actually a group that goes out a little later called the 'All the gear and no idea' group. whilst this one points out that averages can be 20MPH
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