Ive had a pugsley for 2 years, use it mainly for singletrack riding, some of which is quite sandy around here, plus I love different bikes, these are just like riding a geared bmx to me, and soo much fun

I know some haters say they dont make sense – thats fine by me – they dont need too !

spec –

sm 907 frame
white bros snowpack carbon fork
hope headset
hope pro II hubs
VIZ rims 47mm
middleburn rs8
Xtr gears and brakes
Titec H bars
easton carbon seatpost
Charge Ti spoon

Im running continental 1.9-2.1 superlight tubes at the mo

The idea of this was to build a lighter weight fat bike to replace my pugs
Weighed on my digi bathroom scales its 28 lbs – including these pedals and a Nate on the front
So realisticly I caold see it gettign down to 27 in summer – but I think you wouldnt get an Alu framed fatbike any lighter and still be running a triple up front

8 miles through the woods on way to work this morn, 15 night ride after work – will see how it gets on
Rear wheel needs 4mm more dish, will be getting a white marge lite in there v. soon,along with black bar tape, thought orange would look good but its too much

Your carpet could do with a clean.

thanks for that, its a painted concrete floor !

Looks fun and the weight is great – but you need to attach a few more bits to it.

I’d go for wing mirrors and a ghetto blaster personally.

was thinking of an xbox 360

needs a bigger front wheel, but other than that looks ace!

Nice one.

What pressure do you run your tyres at? And how is it to ride? Do the tyres feel like they really drag?

Thanks

Does that rear mud guard do anything?
Can anyone see that rear led light.
Looks Special 😉

<Oooouw lots of questions>
Liking it.
Did you re-drill the rear rim for off set?
Philwood BB or source something more affordable?

<Ispy book of bike builds out > What pedals are they?

personal preference – black saddle for snow 🙂

err, rear guard stops mud spraying up me back
yeah you can see the rear light
yeah my floor needs painting again
rear rim is redrilled for offset, measured and drilled by hand
phil wood BB, cranks from ebay and then I polished them up
just them shimano spds with platform one side
got a Ti swift saddle but chucked this one on for winter
tyres around 10-12 psi at the mo – upto 18 for longer road rides, down to 8 for snow etc
riding it is like pedalling a monster truck

Fat bikes do not go fast enough to cause spray!

Need to singlespeed it!

riding it is like pedalling a monster truck

😀 excellent description!

these are just like riding a geared bmx to me

😯
What kind of **** up BMX do you ride?

Oh they do cause spray,,,,,,,,,,I commute on mine on sometimes, it rains, I get very wet…………

Double post

I’ve fitted a cheap Aldi rack (available again at my local Aldi right now under a tenner) on my fat bike and wrapped a plastic bag around it, it makes a great and cheap mud guard

October 8th – New Frame Bag by Johnclimber

What’s the rack??

That looks great fun, would love a go on that bad boy! 27lbs?! Good job!

Wheels were a complete Git to build, with them being redrilled to get the offset, the angle the nipples come through the rim isn’t great & the rims are the most non round rims I’ve ever built!
Pictures don’t really do it justice though, it does look better in reality than the pictures (well, did until he bolted all the rest of the guff to it)

Looking good Coss, right bike, right colour 8)

Only problem, it is too shiny! Get it in the goor, richt up to the axles!

Enjoy, I think these are excellent bikes, the 907 has a quality riding position IMO

Grips are a bit odd….

Was that water bottle inserted into the bottle cage during the frame building process?

Bikes like this remind me of an adage that was drummed into me as a child: “Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.”

Why not? 😀

Because it’s a pointless, clumsy and inefficient solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist.

Sure, there are bottle cage bosses on the seat tube, but only because the frame builder was daft enough to put them in a place that made it almost impossible to get even a small bottle in.

Yes, fat tyres and rims are available, and it could even be argued that they have uses for riding on sand or snow. But the downsides and overly complicated build solutions are well documented – does it really make sense to build a fat bike for UK conditions? No.

I “could” build a bike with 19 wheels that carries 6 people sitting backwards whilst playing backgammon…

Should I? No, because it would be just as pointless!

Just wondering, once fat bikes become too common and boring like just having a singlespeed rigid 29er or whatever – what is going to be the next niche for everyone to froth over? 🙂

Because it’s a pointless, clumsy and inefficient solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist.

So yes, it does make sense to have a fatbike in the UK :roll:.
All of the above is less than 5 min from my door….so the problem does exists for those of us who ride where trail monkeys don’t

I “could” build a bike with 19 wheels that carries 6 people sitting backwards whilst playing backgammon…

too late…

what is going to be the next niche for everyone to froth over

eventually, a 26″ wheeled hardtail with gears at the crank and wheel end of the drivetrain, I imagine.

All of the above is less than 5 min from my door….so the problem does exists for those of us who ride where trail monkeys don’t

You see, that looks ok I suppose – but I can think of far more interesting places to ride a bike. I’ve seen quite a few sneery posts from fatbike users about people who ride at trail centres etc.

Shibboleth – Member

Because it’s a pointless,[b] I don’t understand I’ll spout a load of utter shite.. blah blah blah…[/b]FFS! looks to be a 750ml in the seat tube cage (and looks to fit nicely) if you are such a retard you can’t work out how to put a bottle in a cage with minimal clearance you could always use a 500ml one.

I have a bottle cage mounted on my DH bike where a 500ml Bottle only just fits into the fromt triangle without fouling the shock/linkage, you’d probably take issue with that too. but I like to be able to take a drink between most runs when riding DH for an 8hour day and a huck sack no matter how small is too restrictive for riding well.

for this reason, I even wish my 14″ DJ hardtail had bottle cage mounts.

as CK said “if you can, why the **** not?”

GW – Member

FFS! looks to be a 750ml in the3 seat tube cage (and loks to fit nicely)

You seem to have difficulty judging size… And it’s already fouling the toptube, can’t be particularly easy to get in and out.

Motorman, you obviously went out looking for problems to fit your solution. I can’t for a single minute imagine you got so hacked off trying to ride those 3 spots on a conventional trail bike that you decided to build the pointless bike. 🙄

once fat bikes become too common and boring like just having a singlespeed rigid 29er or whatever – what is going to be the next niche for everyone to froth over?

I reckon once they get bored of holding hands on beaches they’ll probably go back to good old tits and arses for a bit

ha ha.. Sorry, I thought you were on about the one in motorman’s pic right above your post.. you’re still a complete retard if you can’t get a bottle in the top one tho.

Oh.. and you’ve probably never actually ridden on a beach, have you?

😆 GW!

Oh.. and you’ve probably never actually ridden on a beach, have you?

A handful of times, I prefer slightly more demanding terrain though. And I can’t for the life of me think why anyone would want to ride across mudflats, let alone spend a small fortune on a bike just so they can, even though it’ll be completely sh*t for any other sort of riding!

I’ve seen quite a few loads of sneery posts from fatbikefull suss/hardtail/rigid/singlespeed/geared/26er/29er users about people who ride at trail centres etc.

There you go that’s a bit more accurate

Shibboleth, I too was like you. Totally unable to see the point of Fat bikes. Then I rode one, not on sand or snow, but on dry regular trails and it was amazing. I was astonished – way better than I expected, real proper fun. I’ve not figured out how, but these things really do act like giant BMX’s. Uphill grip is amazing, they pop off stuff enough to give you a grin on anything – try one before you knock them any further. You might be surprised. They are like what 29ers ought to be.

There you go that’s a bit more accurate

Mebbe, I’ve just seen quite a few posts from the fatbike users along the lines of ‘I ride my bike in these unusual places which makes me special and better than other people’. Not an attitude confined to fatbike users though of course.

I’m not denying it might be fun – just some people seem to be constantly on the lookout for the next thing (again not exclusive to nicheists). I just like riding my bike mostly.

Shibboleth – Member
…does it really make sense to build a fat bike for UK conditions? No…

Wrong. Come up to the Highlands or Islands (still in the UK 🙂 ).
Wrong. Try riding any distance on a beach or a soft ground.
Wrong. This is a wet country and a fatbike is a bike you can ride on wet trails with less impact than a walker.

If you are limited to designated singletrack, artificial courses or canal paths then you probably won’t see a need for one until it snows. In open access countryside there’s an awful lot more of it available to you on a fatbike. Even as simple as riding across a tussocked field.

My opinion is that a fatbike is the best general purpose bike for UK conditions. Most of us have taken a cx bike on the singletrack, and while it’s fun we know that the fatter tyred mtb is the more rideable weapon. In the same way, the fatbike extends what is rideable. The negatives are the current weight, and the prices for the specialised components.

Basically I’m not saying that you can’t take an ordinary bike most places, just that you’ll able to ride more of them on a fatbike.

Edit:

Sideways Tim – Member
…They are like what 29ers ought to be.

Ah, sums it up in one simple sentence. 😀

grum – Member
…I’ve just seen quite a few posts from the fatbike users along the lines of ‘I ride my bike in these unusual places which makes me special and better than other people’….

It’s really ‘I can ride my bike in these unusual places so the bike is special and better than my other bikes’.