Fraud by false representation unfortunately! not worth getting caught IMO. Have you not seen My Name is Earl either!
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Moral Dilemma - is it stealing/fraud
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Posted 2 years ago #
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You have already lied about being with the old GF. Difficult to backtrack now, but maybe better in the long run if you do.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Steve,
Sorry mate, if you send the letter in on which you have forged your ex-girlfriends signature you will be fraudulently obtaining money from the council. End of no excuses.
Is it worth a caution or conviction, with the knock on effect it may have on your employability now or in the future? This ex could end up costing you more than you are willing to pay well into the future...
The best course of action would be to either forget it now that you have already lied, take it no further. Or speak to the council explain the situation, that in the heat of the moment you incorrectly indicated that you were still together but that is not correct and explore with them what possibilities exist to get the money released if any.
Good luck
MUTDs
Posted 2 years ago # -
I did it from a shared house ages ago, as my ex-housemate wasn't around to sign it.
We did share the money though, but i think the council just sent me a cheque IIRC. It was a while ago mind, memory might be a bit hazy...Posted 2 years ago # -
Just take the 'free' £125 and walk away.
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if you know her signature just sign it. they'd have to prove she didn't, It's her word against yours...
sign it!!!
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As said above, not worth risking a conviction for fraud/theft/dishonesty for the sake of £125/£250.
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Some of you guys that say sign for her and send, really are giving bad advise. Fraud is dishonest, makes me realise what a amoral country we now live in.
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Theres no need to falsify anything, you're perfectly entitled to all of the money, if you fibbed on the phone so what. Write to them as they asked you too, honestly. They'll pay you all the money, correctly. Your Ex will have missed the bus, deservedly. Make a cup of tea, contentedly.
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Your not entitled to the money. You and your partner are entitled to the money.
By claiming it you are committing fraud. iirc its two year in prison for Ctax fraud.Posted 2 years ago # -
Either you, your partner or both of you are entitled. Who gets the money is a decision that either or both of you can make.
If your partner or a flatmate flits owing stacks of Council Tax you, soley you would be responsible for paying it of they couldn't find them, or even if they could find them and they didn't feel like paying. Rudeboy was in exactly that position recently was he not?
You can claim it, but you should claim it honestly, theres no contract between you and your ex and its not the council's place to act as if there is one. Either of you can claim all of the money with out without the knowledge or the approval of the other, just as either of you can pay the bill with or without the knowledge of the other.
Committing fraud to claim small sum of money is nuts, committing fraud the claim something thats actually yours... how nuts would that be.
As I say, forget you said your GF lives there, let them forget it too, write to them and claim the money for yourself. If they ask about your GF tell them she's gone and she's non of their business.
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Ring up the council and explain that you misunderstood the question, that you are not NOW living with the GF, that she left you with council tax debt you have paid off. I expect they will pay you the money just to get it off their books.
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