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Middle lane drivers - an observation
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Posted 1 year ago #
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No - hard shoulder, inside lane, middle lane, outside lane, barrier.
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I was driving a white van up the M6 once and in front of me was the usual myopic pillock in a Rover doing about 55mph. Nothing in sight in the inside lane at all. I was gaining on him, still no reaction so, being a typical white van man, I flashed my lights and eventually he got the message, pulled in and gesticulated angrily for me to come past. As soon as I had passed, he pulled out into the middle lane again! WTF?!
why all the flashing and so on? Why not just ease into the overtaking lane early, pass him, them smoothly back into the inside lane where you started
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No - hard shoulder, inside lane, middle lane, outside lane, barrier.
You sure? So the inside lane is on the outside, and the outside lane is on the inside?
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As soon as I had passed, he pulled out into the middle lane again! WTF?!
I've seen it more times than I remember. Sometimes rather than overtake or undertake I'll just sit behind the middle lane driver (not tailgating but close enough, you understand) Most move over reasonably quickly but I would say half move back to the middle lane once I've passed!Posted 1 year ago # -
I've seen it more times than I remember. Sometimes rather than overtake or undertake I'll just sit behind the middle lane driver (not tailgating but close enough, you understand) Most move over reasonably quickly but I would say half move back to the middle lane once I've passed!
But then you would have to move into their lane to do this? Why bother?
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RealMan - Member
No - hard shoulder, inside lane, middle lane, outside lane, barrier.
You sure? So the inside lane is on the outside, and the outside lane is on the inside?
You need to forget about the other side of the motorway and then that makes sense.
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Has anyone ever seen anyone pulled over for hogging the middle lane?
Yes.
In this country? How long had they been lingering there?
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As your speedo takes it's info from the final drive it is all done on the tyre circumference and as a trey wears this changes but quite some size. Think about it the difference in tread hight from new to worn of 8 mm per side plus most. Cars have 2 pressure settings depending on the cars usage or if it's fully loaded.
I have seen plenty of people pull on the m27 an go straight in to the middle lane even though the only other car is me and I'm going faster than them.Posted 1 year ago # -
It was on the way to a two week trip in France, so it was hardly the high light of the trip, but I'm pretty sure it was England.
And I'm not quite sure, I was just a passenger, I don't drive myself. They did have 2 other cars sitting right behind them, as we were going past on the outside lane, so I reckon they deserved it.
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I regularly see text book middle lane driving on the M8 heading through Glasgow, the Scots really don’t understand motorway driving. Some of them have stepped it up a level to outside lane hogging! Impressive stuff.
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Not at all, it is the 'most' which implies the uniformity. The 'about' implies that it is uniform around the 10% mark.
The implication here is your error, not mine.
why all the flashing and so on?
To alert other drivers to your presence, as per the highway code.
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Thank you for your testimoney mr realman! you may step down
Never seen it myself. Then again I can't remember the last time I saw a motorway cop pull anyone over for anything.
Unless they invent a middle-lane-moron-cam I doubt it will ever improve.
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I regularly see text book middle lane driving on the M8 heading through Glasgow, the Scots really don’t understand motorway driving. Some of them have stepped it up a level to outside lane hogging! Impressive stuff.
Yeah the M8 is shocking. Its not helped by the crazy layout though, with exits on the outside lane in two places
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Cougar - Member
Not at all, it is the 'most' which implies the uniformity. The 'about' implies that it is uniform around the 10% mark.
The implication here is your error, not mine.
Not mine, that of the English language.
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Not mine, that of the English language.
What do other readers think?Posted 1 year ago # -
I regularly see text book middle lane driving on the M8 heading through Glasgow, the Scots really don’t understand motorway driving. Some of them have stepped it up a level to outside lane hogging! Impressive stuff.
To be fair, three-lane motorways aren't quite as common in Scotland. And as richmtb points out, outside lane "hogging" on some parts of the M8 may just be someone trying to get to their f**ked up exit lane.
The other thing with the M8 is that the speed limit varies quite a bit near Glasgow, so you get folk tailgating and obliviously speeding past in the 50, only to pass them five minutes later in the 70 bits.
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Cougar - Member
Not mine, that of the English language.What do other readers think?
you don't need other readers, just take a look at a dictionary.
You say that most speedos underread (overread) by 10%. That means that they are all the same in that respect, homogenous, consistent in that respect from one example to the other, alike. UNIFORM
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No I didn't.
I said that most speedos (over)read by ABOUT 10%.
"Most," implying "many but not all" which from feedback here would appear to bear out anecdotally as "everyone's apart from yours," and "about" meaning "around, give or take, with some variation," ie not uniform.
If you're going to quote me, don't do it conveniently dropping the one word that makes the difference between who's correct, it's deceitful.
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I use the term uniformity in relation to your use of the the word 'most' not that of 'about'. This is why I am happy to edit to say
You say that most speedos underread (overread) by about 10%. That means that they are all the same in that respect, homogenous, consistent in that respect from one example to the other, alike. UNIFORM
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Charlie: you really are taking pedantry to new depths...
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You say that most speedos underread (overread) by about 10%. That means that they are all the same in that respect, homogenous, consistent in that respect from one example to the other, alike. UNIFORM
(Emphasis mine.) Not only is he pedantic, he's not very good at it.
Anyway, I no longer care. You're right, well done, have a biscuit. Can we talk about something less tedious? What about that Jedward, eh?
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The original statement is correct. Most speedos display a speed that is approximately 10% greater than the true speed, in other words 10% +/- several %. Or to put it another way ~10%. That's what about means in this context - it is an adverb to describe a that a quantity has been stated in an approximate manner, i.e. with a degree of imprecision.
A minority of speedos (i.e. those that do not fall within the 'most speedos' group) still display a speed that is greater than the true speed but they fall closer to a being a much smaller % out or a much greater % out (say 0-4% and 16%+ out). A tiny proportion of speedos display a speed lower than the true speed when travelling at normal cruising speeds, which is illegal.
To put it another way, all speedos bar those which are illegal overstate the true speed by approximately 10%. The use of the word ALL does not nullify the use of the word APPROXIMATELY.
P.S. Do pedantic posters that insist on staying on the same course of argument sit really far forward hunched over their keyboard, nose almost touching the screen?
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All explained here,
How motorways workPosted 1 year ago # -
these threads always have legs
who was it on here that does laps of middlelaners??
genuis, next time it quiet and I'm on my tod I'm going to try it.
overtake, pull in and slow to let them past and then overtake again....repeat until bored. may even try it backwards if its really quietPosted 1 year ago # -
Not me being pedantic, Cougar is fixating on my use of the word uniform, forcing me to justify my use of it. Which i am still happy with, the second sentence being subordinate to the first, means that the word all applies to the most in the original sentence. It is they which are UNIFORM. I'm happy to stop there and seeing as you are too then we shall just let the original statement stand.
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My speedos are all made of lycra...
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No, no Mat. Your uniform is made of Lycra, apparently.
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No lycra here - apart from a bit on my gloves and ahem the tri shorts I just bought....
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If we got rid of the inside lane, and called the first lane the 'driving' lane, and then the middle lane the 'overtaking' lane and the third lane the 'speeding' lane would that help?
I drove most of the M1 up and then down on Saturday, and I'd forgotten how bad it could be - and yes the 55mph crowd do exist...
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If we got rid of the inside lane, and called the first lane the 'driving' lane, and then the middle lane the 'overtaking' lane and the third lane the 'speeding' lane would that help?
That's nearly what it is, in truth. A lane for driving in, and then another 2 for overtaking.
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Chuff me, I go home early and look what happens? Now to spend the next hour reading the posts...
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Inside lane - lorry lane
Middle lane - car lane
Outside lane - premium executive lanePosted 1 year ago # -
Post of the day...
P.S. Do pedantic posters that insist on staying on the same course of argument sit really far forward hunched over their keyboard, nose almost touching the screen?
Posted 1 year ago # -
Maybe that should be the much talked about road pricing model? Charge by the lane.
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