Everything was going so well, until:
oh and by the way I like some of the superstarcomponents stuff
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Mark Cavendish....(Spoiler)
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sorry don, couldn't help myself
igmc...
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two groups of people with diametrically opposed views fail to see each others points of view shocker...
yes, one group who have a degree of courtesy and would post a thread that allows someone the choice to read the contents, and a group of kn*** who have no courtesy. Bit like life in general i guess.
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I'm surprised at you Toys, you're normally one of the more tolerent people on here.
No one is asking anyone to not talk about anything and there are no impications for 'free speech'. We're just asking that you don't shout a result from the rooftops of something people might reasonably be looking forward to seeing during the highlights show. Some of us don't spend all day following the news/fora/websites etc and may choose to avoid news/sites etc to enjoy the highlights as if they were the race unfolding live.
You might not think that's worthy but it only takes a nano second of consideration, no pain, no money and no aggro to avoid putting a result (TdF, footy, rugby etc) in the thread title. Yes we can avoid STW completely but it really shouldn't be neccesary. It's a little tiny weeny bit of consideration not a pint of blood.
Please just think about this when posting. Houns BTW was just being a chump and reacted like a 10 year old when he was pulled up by a Mod.
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Can the mods create a sticky thread called:
SPOILER: The Tour de France Thread
and ban anyone who opens another thread about it?
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Ok this is just silly. 10 years in here and still stupid enough not to avoid the forum if you don't want a tdf spoiler! Now that really is hard to understand!! As most people in here slack off work to post its not like you don't have a valid task to keep you off here for a few hours in the afternion.
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maxray - Member
Ok this is just silly
On this, at least, we agree.
My mission in life now is to do this by default. Come the football season/autumn internationals/olympics, as soon as the event is over, I'm going to post the results in forum titles. Yes, lets just see how reasonable that is. But, for those that it impacts, they can always stay away so that's OK then....
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boblo, i think I am being tolerant, tolerant of peoples right to discuss current events without fear of retribution from some anal wierdo's who have to watch the whole program at 7pm pretending that its happening in real life when the rest of the world knows what went on. I dont deny anyones right to be anal and wierd, I just dont think they should project it on the rest of us by calling people knobs and proposing banning those who want to live in the real world and discuss actual current events.
They way I see it is that the no tdf spoilers crew are intolerant, if they want to exist in their strange little bubble then stay away from real time interactive media where the point is to be real time and interactive.
My mission in life now is to do this by default. Come the football season/autumn internationals/olympics, as soon as the event is over, I'm going to post the results in forum titles. Yes, lets just see how reasonable that is. But, for those that it impacts, they can always stay away so that's OK then....
<sigh>
This is justs as silly as it isnt what you want to do, I for one am not particulalry interested in deliberatly posting spoilers, but I might have by accident as I didnt realise it was the done thing on here, and I am even more surprised by the vociferous hating of houns for doing so (on purpose or not). That is an example of intolerance.
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How long should people wait in not posting threafs that may show a result? Just til the next day, a week for those who are working away? a month to be safe?
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Tough I say. It's free speech on here we will post what we like
You were putting your point of view (albeit the wrong view) across well until you said that. Then you lost.Posted 10 months ago # -
toys19 - Member
i think I am being tolerant
from some anal wierdo's
in their strange little bubble
Aren't these statements mutually exclusive?
As for how long, same day would be nice but within the hour is the problem in this case.
OK, I'm done here. Last question. If you were chatting in the office to a colleague whom you knew was a fan of xyz sport, you knew the result and he didn't. You also knew he was looking forward to catching up with it after work and asked you not to reveal the result during the conversation. Would you?
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DD your grasp of logic has long been the subject of my amusement. Thanks for that missive.
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DD your grasp of logic has long been the subject of my amusement. Thanks for that missive.
Ah, then he gets personal. Bless...
Still loses though.
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OK, I'm done here. Last question. If you were chatting in the office to a colleague whom you knew was a fan of xyz sport, you knew the result and he didn't. You also knew he was looking forward to catching up with it after work and asked you not to reveal the result during the conversation. Would you?
Of course not, I'm not a ****
Equally though, if he knew you were a 100% certified **** and would tell him as soon as the conversation started, he'd avoid you. This same thing has come up every year around the TdF. I hereby predict that EXACTLY the same thing will happen next year. Sadly it does seem that to avoid TdF spoilers you have to stay away from here. Of course it isn't right but them's the facts.
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I still reckon banning people who post spoilers in the titles would solve the problem.
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Of course it isn't right
Which is all I think too. I, too, know very little will change.
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So you reckon they should go on football websites and ask that no-one talks about the results til they get to watch the video?
The point is you can talk about it and no one is asking that people stop this. People are asking that people dont post titles which give away results. It is not hard to for this to occur and then both groups can do what they want.
One group gets to not know the results one group gets to discuss the results.
Why is this not preferable to one group has to avoid STW because folk use title threads as spoilers? It is worth noting the thread poster did it deliberately as he hates the tour and people who watch it.
fwiw I have pretty much no sympathy with those who think spoiler content is unacceptable or who imagine some unwritten agreement exists around this, but I understand that those who think differently are entitled to their opinion and that I am not going to persuade them to change their perspective
The problem is if you do your thing you stop us doing our thing. You can still do your thing and just not give the result away in the thread title. This has happened here across all sports and it just some basic consideration for other people. Really it is just ruining other peoples enjoyment not enhancing your own.
i think I am being tolerant, tolerant of peoples right to discuss current events without fear of retribution from some anal wierdo's who have to watch the whole program at 7pm pretending that its happening in real life when the rest of the world knows what went on.
Again you can discuss it just dont ruin the result for people in the thread title.
They could have said Big TdF crash [ even said] top rider out for example to attract people in rather than name them. Clearly it is more fun to watch something if you dont know the result than if you do. As for the ad hominem bit pointless and not worthy of response.
but I might have by accident
you might have then again you might have done it deliberately , had your thread pulled, then posted another one like what happened to cause this debate. They are not the same thing. The situation you describe usually involves the OP going sorry rather than gloating.
That is an example of intolerance.
what is ?asking him to not ruin the result for people? Is he not intolerant of our wish in fact he is doing it to ruin oit for folk is taht tolerance of other people? I tolerate people deliberately ruining my fun, you sure it works like that?? Given he/they can discuss the issue - start a thread even without giving the result away in a clearly named spoiler thread. All he did was ruin it for folk who did not want to know the result, Why you think that is tolerance and objecting to this intolerance is lost in me tbh. It's a biy like asking someone to tolerate the behaviour of someone on an ASBOPeople can discuss the sports live NO ONE IST YRING TO STOP THAT AND THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR it is only asked that titles dont ruin it for those who will watch it later.
i am going for 8 spoiler threads today 5 real and 3 ironically wrong ones.
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i am going for 8 spoiler threads today 5 real and 3 ironically wrong ones.
So you won't be on here, or you enjoy being angry?
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ha ha oh dear
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Given this is an old debate because people have regularly posted spoilers in thread titles, surely anyone wanting to avoid results should avoid the forum. Ideally people wouldn't post them, but they have in the past and will continue to do so, thus the only pragmatic approach to be sure of avoiding spoilers is to stay off the forum until you've watched whatever highlights you're waiting for.
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There is no need to, it's against forum rules:
Drac - Moderator
Iit may come under negative use of the forum rule, if we believe it is then will be dealt with. We respect for all sports or events that there's those that can't watch them live but will still visit forums. So out of respect it would be nice if people added SPOILER to the thread title if it was revealing something crucial to that event or had the potential to.Posted 10 months ago # -
thus the only pragmatic approach to be sure of avoiding spoilers is to stay off the forum until you've watched whatever highlights you're waiting for.
There are a group of people on here to which "stay off the forum" is an impossible task, even for 10 minutes. Or at least, that's what it seems like, given that they pop up on pretty much every thread, whether they have a valid/funny/useful contribution or not...
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There are a group of people on here to which "stay off the forum" is an impossible task, even for 10 minutes. Or at least, that's what it seems like, given that they pop up on pretty much every thread, whether they have a valid/funny/useful contribution or not...
This is very true!
As much as I don't agree with the views of junkyard and co I hope people don't just deliberatly spoil things. I can understand the disappointment of having a result spoiled tho I still think its up to the person to avoid results not others be forced not to speak openly about it incase someone hasn't seen it.
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"forced" not to
speak openly aboutram it down people's throats by typing results in a thread title
I agree - it's totalitarianism at it's very worst
Posted 10 months ago # -
sad that some people need to spoil others fun.
same mentality of the school bully ruining other peoples games in the playground.
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I still think its up to the person to avoid results not others be forced not to speak openly about it incase someone hasn't seen it.
I am not trying nor do I want people to be unable to discuss it live - there is a TdF thread every day. I fully support the discussion of the events for all sporting events live. I just want titles that dont spoil it fo rthose waiting for the highlights.
TdF results discussion v
Cav wins stage 7 discussion
Wiggo out of tour in crash v
Big tour crash top rider out
that even gives something away bit not enough to spoil IMHO so is still ok.It is pretty easy to avoid posting a spoiler title tbh and is done deliberately to spoil someone else fun [ it was yesterday anyway]
Imagine if a walker blocks a MTB from riding can they ask for tolerance of their views ? Can they ask that you ride where walkers dont walk?
Should the walker just step aside then everyone can do what they want without anything being spoiled for anyone?
It just requires a bit of empathy/respect for someone else doing something different from you, or if you prefer, someone not behaving like an arse to spoil other folks fun.Posted 10 months ago # -
There are some very sensitive souls on here.
Posted 10 months ago # -
don simon - Member
There are some very sensitive souls on here.
yup
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What your beef now?
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same mentality of the school bully ruining other peoples games in the playground.
Shut up and gimme yer lunch money!
Posted 10 months ago # -
There are some very sensitive souls on here.
And you, sir, would know.
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Ouch!
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