the genesis equilibrium, 229 frame 119 fork? or close altertives?

cheers

Planet X do one for £399 frame fork and headset

Looks nice, dont know whether its any good?

mmm, I think most manufacturers would argue that their frames are 'value' regardless of price?

If you're just wanting cheap than maybe secondhand?

is that the kaffenback at planet x? i see the point on value, oklets change that slightly up to 500 quid for the frame and forks

No, its the Guerciotti at planet x

That Guerciotti looks a bit heavy, albeit the forks are light, carbon a-head is much better than quill IMO (and Shirley available <£120?).

Equilibrium looks better value but not a pure race bike (i.e. takes mudguards etc).

I will be building an Equilibrium up in about two weeks when they land in the UK. I have a 105 black groupset and a couple of other bits sat here waiting. Trying to decide on wheels at the moment.