he hasn't responded.
to you.
He may have been on to your line manager, however.
he hasn't responded.
to you.
He may have been on to your line manager, however.
Your line manager is now left in a position where he can only view you as :-
a) Someone who wanted to stitch him up behind his back
or
b) Someone without the social skills to realise that he was stitching someone up behind their back.
I'd do my best to forget about what you can't undo and just move on in a slightly more thoughtful way in future.
The 'work' that he said I should be getting on with while I wait for the proper Work I am employed to do doesn't 'need' doing at all. it was just his way of keeping me occupied while he gets a tan
I've learnt over the years just do it if thats what they ask,if it keeps you occupied so the day goes quicker all the better.
go speak to your MD, get your ass covered and alleviate any shit to be levied at your boss on his return. Don't tell the MD your boss e-mailed you, just say you hoped it didn't sound like you have NOTHING to do, oh no, thats not what I meant, I just meant, errr, I have tonnes to do but was looking for those discs...
Your line manager is now left in a position where he can only view you as :-a) Someone who wanted to stitch him up behind his back
or
b) Someone without the social skills to realise that he was stitching someone up behind their back.
or
c) Someone who is good at doing their job and who is efficient but has yet to learn the finer details of industry hierarchy communication protocol.
the 'work' that he said I should be getting on with while I wait for the proper Work I am employed to do doesn't 'need' doing at all. it was just his way of keeping me occupied while he gets a tan.
So were you left with work to do or not? It sounds like you were, but that you didn't judge it off sufficient value so went above your boss to get something else.
If that is the case you come across as calculated and backstabbing, not naive and simplistic
highclimber - if your name is a reference to your career aspirations then I think Pook is definitely right!
First industry job out of Uni.... already sounding like a jobsworth... I feel some tougher lessons than this one are yet to come.
U will neva B at da top if U talk in txt spk eeva, M8!!
Er. Yeah.
you need one of these

then a copy of this
There are some very sensitive middle managers posting here, obviously more interested in empire building and office polotics than getting on and doing some real work.
So were you left with work to do or not? It sounds like you were, but that you didn't judge it off sufficient value so went above your boss to get something else.
no, I was expecting some work to arrive from the MD by today. my line manager, in response to me saying I had no other work at the moment, because I hadn't recieved the work promised, suggested that I ' ...make lists, contact some local outdoor ed centres and go and see'.
I didn't expect a reply from him [my line manager] as he was on holiday. I could have avoided this whole fiasco if I had asked him for more work but He was on holiday and I assumed, wrongly in this case, that asking for the work I was promised from the MD would be ok but my wording was sloppy and ended up making my line manager look like he hasn't been doing his job. Not My Intention other wise I would have NOT CC'd him into the email!
Time to get out of that company. It doesn't have a proper work ethic and is full of precious princesses.
Get a job where effort is appreciated and rewarded before you get ground down.
Start looking now.
BYW the best company to work for is your own.
is that precious or precocious?
precious (irony)
I agree that my initial email was poorly worded
Yes, but your second one was even worse. Not a sackable offence, but one which guarantees no future.
I guess "highclimber" refers to getting on your high horse.
why was my reply even worse?
and my username has nothing to do with my current occupation.
+1 epicyclo, there are more interesting ways of making a living than dealing with this kind of rubbish. Unbelievably, companies exist where your ability to work is valued above your ability to read and implement Machiavelli. Find one of those
Surely you just need to clarify that you were expecting work from another source which didn't come? Ideally this would have been on your 1st mail but as you didn't just need to explain that? You made your manager look bad and if he gets told off then he will take it out on you so try and sort it out.
Highclimber, I've done similar - worse actually.
It sounds like you're working for an organisation that values politics over performance. Unless you like a political environment you're in the wrong job.
Remember bureaucracy is cancer of the administration.
There are some very sensitive middle managers posting here, obviously more interested in empire building and office polotics than getting on and doing some real work.
+1
I so don't miss corporate life.
EDIT: Btw highclimber, how big is the organisation anyway?
Well if your MD was getting you work to do-go find him if you can't find any work yourself.
You just asked it in a naive or rubbish way-learn!
i'm not too concerned TBH. I know what I did was not the best way of doing it and I won't do it again but I feel like there was a bit of ambiguity in the communication of the information as to who to ask for what!
how big is the organisation anyway?
not very big at all - two offices one in london the other in sheff max 15 staff.
They let me work from home 4 days a week (agreed when I took the job) as the office, where my line manager is, is 2 hrs from me.
The main office where the MD is based is in London.
Should have gone for a ride....
Sounds like your line manager would be happier in a larger organisation where he can pass away the hours considering the inadequacy of his life.
may I suggest that you throw a kitten at your MD? I think it may help.
If I was your line manager, I'd be questioning your judgement and communication skills.
If I was your MD, I'd think you're both muppets.
If I was you, I'd have been enjoying the paid free time.
I don't see much wrong if your MD is your next point of call.
Glad I don't work for your line manager, sounds like a bit of a twunt with his hissy fit.
Well **** me, I'm pleased I work for the prison service if this is what your line manager's like. He sounds like a Nob with a capital K.
Sounds like your line manager would be happier in a larger organisation where he can pass away the hours considering the inadequacy of his life.
Not wrong there either.
Sounds like a right 'up me own ar$e' company.
Sounds like you must be in a pretty small outfit, my MD wouldn't even know you exist, and you'd wouldn't need to worry as if your name isn't recognised your emails don't get read anyway.....
I would be a little miffed if one of my team contacted my boss saying they didn't have any work, but that's because we have more work than people so it would be showing a huge lack of initiative and shows that you need to be spoon fed work.
You've successfully ruined your bosses holiday, he'll spend the rest of it stressing and wondering why your bad mouthing him when is backs turned......
You should be in Politics FFS
Well **** me, I'm pleased I work for the prison service if this is what your line manager's like. He sounds like a Nob with a capital K.
judging by the amount of replys that have said the opposite, it would seem there are a lot of people like him
For the record Myhead, he's the one who took his work away with him!
Don't forget to forward the email to your lawyer, he may as well start building the case now, in readiness for when you walk out having been bollocked for actually asking to do some work.
highclimber - Member
...For the record Myhead, he's the one who took his work away with him!
Oh oh! That's a bad sign. That's the sort of thing that is done by people who are fiddling the books.
gixer-chris - MemberSee them both face to face, apologise and explain what you meant, take the b*llocking and move on, like grown ups do
Is abvouyt the best bit of advice on here IMO
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