I asked about sending them the photo of the seals and werent interested.Chances are they wont be interested in me sending a wheel back.
It does seem proper odd, as I've never seen one with different seals, and if you have problems with water ingress maybe you have a duffer?
I guess you could try sending it to them and see what happens, either they'll manage to fit the new seal with no problems and you'll feel like a plonker, or they'll have a scratchy head moment and you'll get a new hub/shell.
I once got a 34 hole hub from Hope years ago, drilled for 36 on one side and 32 on the other!
I think what the main problem is that the point blank ' there isnt a different seal for this and not we dont want a photo and er, maybe sand it down to make it fit as i an unsure' doesnt really inspire me with confidence. i know this was an early hub when i got it, just as much as I was one of the first to get the front hydraulic disc brake system with the lever arm on my Rock Shox Judys !!. But it is a pain in the butt. It has never sealed properly and when i approached Hope previously a few years ago and said that a plastic seal will not seal as well as the XC oil seal type, the answer came back as yes it does. Thats doesnt explain why my new pawl springs ( did you know the later ones are half the size of the old spring steel?) and pawls , which i last rebuilt the hub 2 weeks ago are now full of brown water from the springs rusting. The inner hub bearing grease has gone white with water ingression and after flushing the bearing and regreasing and drying the hub out again, will know it will be wet again on a drizzly ride. It actually changes note on freewheeling through the ride. Sounds like a drowning duck by the end !! I have Goldtec hubs, Hope XC, Easton hubs on my road bike and all work as I want them too. yes, they get routinely stripped and greased, but once a fortnight is beyond the joke.
I tend to agree, it sounds rubbish and it shouldn't let that much water in, I normally only open my Pro IIs up every 3-4 months (rather than 6-12 for Bulbs and XCs) and they normally only need a bit of a clean, although my SS hub does let more water in, but as I said I think that one needs a new seal now as it's baggy.
If you're at the point of binning it then I would send it back to them and see what happens, cos if there really is something wrong with it they will sort it.
It's doubly frustrating when you've had older Hope hubs, I've not been that impressed with Pro IIs compared to Bulbs and ti-glides some of which I have still running on original bearings form 10 years ago and one non-disk ti-glide from 94/95 which is still going strong.
Yes, my Ti XC I have just after 8 ish years put ceramic bearings in it and it rolls like nothing else. 2 mates have broken Pro 2 's one split the shell in half, coming down Snowdon on the tarmac of all things, just went bang and the wheel just disintegrated and the other a flange snapped off on one side suddenly. I think the only benefit of the Pro 2 was a weight thing. My wifes XC Ti hub has the screw on ring and spider for the disc on her bike and is still running sweet.
Didn't the early ProII ss hub suffer from body fractures so the design got changed a bit? As per this thread from 2007:-
Wonder if your's is an early hub and they changed the seal size at the same time?
I too find it frustrating that my ProII ss hub needs much more attention than a 1996 XC hub that is still in regular use..... That one has a proper radial seal instead of the crappy axial contact plastic ring they use now (I've found Hope ignore any comments / suggestions like this and just quietly and efficiently send free replacement parts ready to fail again in another 6 months).
My wifes XC Ti hub has the screw on ring and spider for the disc on her bike and is still running sweet.
ahhh (wistful look into distance), I still have 2 pairs of them in regular use, love those hubs...
Well, just spoken to Nick and the early hubs they did use a smaller seal. So i wasnt imagining it !!. He has scoured the place and found one. It is being posted. Thanks for the help everyone. i will measure the new one with the old ( potentially worn) one and see if it is worn. He says that if it still lets water in , in the way i described, then a new freehub is possibly the way.
and now we've learnt something too, to keep an eye out for the early ones. Hopefully new seal will sort out your problems!
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