[Shifted down as the edit is confusing]
It's quite tricky to find a good graph of wages as a share of GDP over time. I am quite convinced that ernie is correct, as he generally is.
This [url=www.pwc.co.uk/pdf/PwC-Wage_inflation-July2005.pdf ]PWC report[/url] is fairly clear. [might need to copy and paste: http://www.pwc.co.uk/pdf/PwC-Wage_inflation-July2005.pdf ]
Although this suggests you don't understand what ernie is talking about:
better off now than they were in the 50s with rationing
"Genetically, paedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than they do with you and me. Now that is scientific fact. There's no real evidence for it, but it is scientific fact."
Although this suggests you don't understand what ernie is talking about:better off now than they were in the 50s with rationing
Please explain then, and while you're at it please explain how this means that plumbers should get paid at least 60k a year, and we shouldn't let in the immigrants?
I believe that on average, wages, as percentage of GDP, have reduced by about 25% in the last 30 years.Any basis for that? I 'believe' that on average people are wealthier now than ever before.
It is possible for both statements to be true.
I believe that on average, wages, as percentage of GDP, have reduced by about 25% in the last 30 years. This is one of the most important reasons for the huge growth in recent decades of credit dependency. And goes to the very heart of why Britain was so affected by the 'credit crunch'.
Not sure how this is relevant anyway - my point is that some tradesmen charged high prices due to a shortage of their skills in the market. What is the relevance of wages/GDP to that?
So are we better off or worse?
Is gordon blairs "british jobs for british people" fair or correct? or should it be completely free market?
What is the relevance of wages/GDP to that?
I was just commenting on your comment, quote : "I am suggesting that in many cases the wages may have been artificially high" And just pointing out that Britain is a low wage economy in comparison to the recent past.
If you thought my point was irrelevant, fair enough - you could have just ignored it *shrugs shoulders*
So .... immigration policy is dictated by economics then, not racism ?
glad that's sorted out
"Auf Wiedersehen Pet" anyone ? the UK has been there before ....
I've rather got the impression that recently most people haven't got richer but instead have borrowed significantly more than was done before mostly due to remortgaging and cheap credit. Whilst not being in the same situation as BD I am in a legally protected profession although about half my office originate from outside the UK.
(Whilst I sit on my balcony overlooking Lac Leman, waiting for my bath to finish drawing and thinking about what wine to go with dinner - must go the Vuelta is on tv)
I still can't understand why it's racist to query people from other European countries coming to this country, legally or not. We're all one racial group, as Europeans, not Africans, Chinese, Inuit, etc. There may be ethnic differences, but not racial as far as I can see. Anyway, all Homo Sapiens decend from hominids from what is now part of Africa, so the race thing is just a useful weapon to use to gain advantage over another person or group of people for personal or political gain.
I'm sure TJ or someone will be along in a while to lecture me and teach me the error of my ways. Which I'll ignore, as usual.
all Homo Sapiens decend from hominids from what is now part of Africa
In fact all homo sapiens are from Africa, full stop. Your fully modern human ancestors were living in Africa a few thousand years ago.
(although whenever I see a picture of Martin Johnson I do wonder if our African forebears got jiggy with the European caveman Neanderthals when they got here rather than just killing them and nicking all their food).
all Homo Sapiens descend from hominids
I thought Humans were Hominids ? 
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Don't start talking Humans up the 'Evolutionary Tree' too soon ...................give it another million years or so
at least 
It's a scientific fact that there are no races. It is impossible or pointless to classify them because the differences between say groups of white coloured people, or similarities between other skin colour groups is far more varied e.g. height, weight, intelligence and significant than say slanted eyes or skin colour.
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